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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8460171" data-attributes="member: 63508">Quoting a post a second time now that I'm not at work.In 4e,a 16 in your primary score and a 14 in you secondary was standard. Thats what the standard array and point but gave you. Itwas seen as fine to roll with a 16.A 18 was unneccesary but good. a 20was right now powergaming. Problem. WOTC screwed up the math post Heroic.Because the monsters had too many HP, getting all the accuracy and damage buff became the norm post level 8 or so.&nbsp; Powergaaming for damage and stacking bonuses was the norm and not going extra. So WOTC was forced to redo the math.And think this may have happened in 5e as well. You might not need a 16 at level 1 but you might need a 20, a +2 magic weapon/armor, or some OP feat by level 10.People WILL look at your level 8 PC with at 14 primary and 2 &quot;flavor&quot; feats funny if you aren't running a tier 1 class like wizard, bard, wizard, paladin or wizard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8460171, member: 63508"] Quoting a post a second time now that I'm not at work. In 4e,a 16 in your primary score and a 14 in you secondary was standard. Thats what the standard array and point but gave you. Itwas seen as fine to roll with a 16.A 18 was unneccesary but good. a 20was right now powergaming. Problem. [B]WOTC screwed up the math post Heroic.[/B] Because the monsters had too many HP, getting all the accuracy and damage buff became the norm post level 8 or so. Powergaaming for damage and stacking bonuses was the norm and not going extra. So WOTC was forced to redo the math. And think this may have happened in 5e as well. You might not [I]need[/I] a 16 at level 1 but you might[I] need [/I]a 20, a +2 magic weapon/armor, or some OP feat by level 10. [B]People WILL look at your level 8 PC with at 14 primary and 2 "flavor" feats funny if you aren't running a tier 1 class like wizard, bard, wizard, paladin or wizard.[/B] [/QUOTE]

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