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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 3562970" data-attributes="member: 892">Maybe it helps to think of it this way.In D&amp;D there is this conceit that PCs will be in groups of PCs of about the same level.&nbsp; Thus 1st level newbies will cluster together and go fight kobolds, and 10th level heroes will cluster together and go fight mind-flayers and 20th level heroes will cluster together and go fight Pit Fiends.&nbsp; What you don't get is a random clustering of a 1st level dude, a 10th level dude and a 20th level dude.&nbsp; It is as if the PC characters can recognize when someone is either too powerful or too weak to hang with.&nbsp; You might call this 'PC Radar'.Now Vampires are pretty powerful.&nbsp; If you get a Vampire PC who is 5th level, he will be tougher than a 5th level human.&nbsp; Thus using that same &quot;Radar&quot; he will consider 5th level humans too puny to hang with, and will seek out 13th level humans to hang with.&nbsp; This is exactly the same &quot;Radar&quot; that causes the 13th level elf to consider a 5th level human too puny to hang with, so he will seek a 13th level human to hang with.&nbsp; Similarly, a 5th level human would recognize a 5th level vampire and a 13th level high elf as &quot;too powerful&quot; to hang with, and would seek out 5th level high elves and 5th level humans.LA is not a function of power reduction of a race.&nbsp; Vampires are tougher than humans, on average.&nbsp; All LA changes is the &quot;radar&quot; that the PCs have, that mysteriously determines who will band together as a PC adventuring party.Your vampire PC is *not* weakened by LA.&nbsp; He is simply recognizing that his vampiric powers allow him to &quot;punch above his weight&quot; and &quot;hang with a tougher crowd&quot; than before he became a vampire.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 3562970, member: 892"] Maybe it helps to think of it this way. In D&D there is this conceit that PCs will be in groups of PCs of about the same level. Thus 1st level newbies will cluster together and go fight kobolds, and 10th level heroes will cluster together and go fight mind-flayers and 20th level heroes will cluster together and go fight Pit Fiends. What you don't get is a random clustering of a 1st level dude, a 10th level dude and a 20th level dude. It is as if the PC characters can recognize when someone is either too powerful or too weak to hang with. You might call this 'PC Radar'. Now Vampires are pretty powerful. If you get a Vampire PC who is 5th level, he will be tougher than a 5th level human. Thus using that same "Radar" he will consider 5th level humans too puny to hang with, and will seek out 13th level humans to hang with. This is exactly the same "Radar" that causes the 13th level elf to consider a 5th level human too puny to hang with, so he will seek a 13th level human to hang with. Similarly, a 5th level human would recognize a 5th level vampire and a 13th level high elf as "too powerful" to hang with, and would seek out 5th level high elves and 5th level humans. LA is not a function of power reduction of a race. Vampires are tougher than humans, on average. All LA changes is the "radar" that the PCs have, that mysteriously determines who will band together as a PC adventuring party. Your vampire PC is *not* weakened by LA. He is simply recognizing that his vampiric powers allow him to "punch above his weight" and "hang with a tougher crowd" than before he became a vampire. [/QUOTE]

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