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<blockquote data-quote="Aeric" data-source="post: 3730930" data-attributes="member: 17012"><p><em>Why a new edition?</em></p><p></p><p>I want a new edition because the 3.5 ruleset is too complicated and burdensome for my tastes or the tastes of most of the people I play with. There are some things I love about 3.5 and some things I hate. My hope is that 4th edition will fix the things I hate and leave the things I love alone.</p><p></p><p><em>Why no gnomes?</em></p><p></p><p>For several reasons.</p><p></p><p>Reason #1) Gnomes lack a niche of their own. Want a short race? Play a halfling. Want a subterreanan race? Play a dwarf. Want a magic-using race that lives in harmony with nature? Play an elf. So many people complain about the gnomish tinker from Dragonlance, but at least that was a niche no other race filled.</p><p></p><p>Reason #2) Never in my 15+ years of playing D&D have I ever seen anyone play a gnome that wasn't intended* as a comic relief character. Ever. It doesn't help that they are described as pranksters and practical jokers, or that their names universally sound goofy, or that every single illustration of a gnome looks ridiculous. Even Gimble, the coolest-looking gnome in any D&D book I've ever seen, still looks silly to me. And he manages that without even looking like a gnome in the first place (please see my avatar for more details).</p><p></p><p>All of this is like a blank check to those players who get their kicks from irritating the rest of the party. Why would I want to encourage people to be disruptive?</p><p></p><p>*(I say intended because for the most part, these characters are highly irritating, not funny.)</p><p></p><p><em>Why simplification?</em></p><p></p><p>Because 3.5 is overburdened with rules that are essential to gameplay: class skills vs. cross-class skills, grappling, turning undead, status effects, energy types, size modifiers, types of modifiers, etc.</p><p></p><p><em>What's your reason for pining for a new edition of the game we all know and love?</em></p><p></p><p>It's because I love the game that I want a new edition. I want it to grow, to be even better than it is now.</p><p></p><p><em>Also, is the want for a new edition greater than the fear of a dud?</em></p><p></p><p>If 4e is worse than 3.5, then we still have 3.5 (or some other system). If 4e is better then 3.5, then we've got a better game. It's a win-win situation!</p><p></p><p><em>EDIT: Also, do you feel the new edition will address the reason you want a new edition?</em></p><p></p><p>I like a lot of what I see so far, but I know it won't be a perfect game. I'm looking foward to the new edition to see what they fixed, how they fixed it, and what I'll have to fix myself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aeric, post: 3730930, member: 17012"] [I]Why a new edition?[/I] I want a new edition because the 3.5 ruleset is too complicated and burdensome for my tastes or the tastes of most of the people I play with. There are some things I love about 3.5 and some things I hate. My hope is that 4th edition will fix the things I hate and leave the things I love alone. [I]Why no gnomes?[/I] For several reasons. Reason #1) Gnomes lack a niche of their own. Want a short race? Play a halfling. Want a subterreanan race? Play a dwarf. Want a magic-using race that lives in harmony with nature? Play an elf. So many people complain about the gnomish tinker from Dragonlance, but at least that was a niche no other race filled. Reason #2) Never in my 15+ years of playing D&D have I ever seen anyone play a gnome that wasn't intended* as a comic relief character. Ever. It doesn't help that they are described as pranksters and practical jokers, or that their names universally sound goofy, or that every single illustration of a gnome looks ridiculous. Even Gimble, the coolest-looking gnome in any D&D book I've ever seen, still looks silly to me. And he manages that without even looking like a gnome in the first place (please see my avatar for more details). All of this is like a blank check to those players who get their kicks from irritating the rest of the party. Why would I want to encourage people to be disruptive? *(I say intended because for the most part, these characters are highly irritating, not funny.) [I]Why simplification?[/I] Because 3.5 is overburdened with rules that are essential to gameplay: class skills vs. cross-class skills, grappling, turning undead, status effects, energy types, size modifiers, types of modifiers, etc. [I]What's your reason for pining for a new edition of the game we all know and love?[/I] It's because I love the game that I want a new edition. I want it to grow, to be even better than it is now. [I]Also, is the want for a new edition greater than the fear of a dud?[/I] If 4e is worse than 3.5, then we still have 3.5 (or some other system). If 4e is better then 3.5, then we've got a better game. It's a win-win situation! [I]EDIT: Also, do you feel the new edition will address the reason you want a new edition?[/I] I like a lot of what I see so far, but I know it won't be a perfect game. I'm looking foward to the new edition to see what they fixed, how they fixed it, and what I'll have to fix myself. [/QUOTE]
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