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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 862242" data-attributes="member: 6875">True enough, Darklone.I assumed a fluid, "runnign battle" situation, with only partial attacks.But if we're doign a "stand and deliver" episode, Fred gets those 20 highest-BAB attacks in ... and 20 more for a few extra hits, too.At +4 to hit with his secondary attacks, Fred would hit AC 20 on a roll of 17-20, or, one time in five -- which is 4 times out of the 20 rounds of my prior example.20% of those, or 0.8 hits, would fail to connect due to concealment.So, we can safely add 3 more connecting hits to Fred's total (4 without concealment).Now, Bob is connecting 4 times,a nd Fred is connecting 11 times (with concealment).Without concealment, Bob connects 5 times, and Fred connects 13 times.Fred, always, will hit mroe often than Bob -- concealment or no.Granted it IS true that, the more likely your opponent is to hit you, the more valuable you will find concealment.  Once foes' AB start to surpass your AC, you need to pick up concealment, displacement, or whatever.However, against a given level of concealment-plus-AC, the general trend of who hits more often, will hold steady across all levels of combatants.</blockquote>