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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8310128" data-attributes="member: 23751">I think using D&amp;D Beyond numbers is flawed beyond belief.&nbsp; The vast majority of players don't play online.&nbsp; They play in person.&nbsp; During the Pandemic my group had to play online and it was very frustrating and not nearly as enjoyable an experience.&nbsp; It's no surprise that the D&amp;D Beyond numbers are low with that kind of experience.I've been playing since 1983 and in many different groups with different DMs. Probably half of those groups went above level 10 and most of those to levels 15-20.&nbsp; When I go to game conventions and watch groups playing D&amp;D, I very often see PCs in the teens to 20, and it's not uncommon for me to see 20+.&nbsp; Once I saw a group that was over level 100 and walked away laughing at the absurdity, but hey, they seemed to be having fun.&nbsp; Using the D&amp;D Beyond numbers as representative of D&amp;D at large is like using this site to do the same thing. It doesn't work.&nbsp; I don't doubt that many more games stop at under level 10.&nbsp; A lot of campaigns implode due to real life and a lot of groups don't like high level play.&nbsp; However, a very significant number do go to high level and the support needs to remain for it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8310128, member: 23751"] I think using D&D Beyond numbers is flawed beyond belief. The vast majority of players don't play online. They play in person. During the Pandemic my group had to play online and it was very frustrating and not nearly as enjoyable an experience. It's no surprise that the D&D Beyond numbers are low with that kind of experience. I've been playing since 1983 and in many different groups with different DMs. Probably half of those groups went above level 10 and most of those to levels 15-20. When I go to game conventions and watch groups playing D&D, I very often see PCs in the teens to 20, and it's not uncommon for me to see 20+. Once I saw a group that was over level 100 and walked away laughing at the absurdity, but hey, they seemed to be having fun. Using the D&D Beyond numbers as representative of D&D at large is like using this site to do the same thing. It doesn't work. I don't doubt that many more games stop at under level 10. A lot of campaigns implode due to real life and a lot of groups don't like high level play. However, a very significant number do go to high level and the support needs to remain for it. [/QUOTE]

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