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Why does D&D still have 16th to 20th level?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Daniel" data-source="post: 8310264" data-attributes="member: 694"><p>Because without epic levels, how else will Dexter get to play Gygax, his 27th level fighter/mage with a +18 soul-sucking sword!?</p><p></p><p>But seriously, the game's high levels should be there for people who like to play them. My old-school fantasy heartbreaker explicitly caps out at 10th level (for humans; 6th to 8th for demihumans) because I feel that high-level play doesn't fit the game's setting; but when I'm playing by-the-book OD&D or AD&D? I have no problem letting OD&D characters go up to 36th level and past that into the Immortals levels, or letting AD&D characters go to 30th and then quest for godhood. It's traditional and it's <em>fun</em>! (Though of course this does come from a place where the higher levels existing in the game-rules doesn't come with any assumption that they'll ever be achieved by player characters. The concept of a 1st level to 20th level campaign arc makes no sense at all when the campaign milieu is just a sandbox backdrop for the various players' competing characters to all try and work up to whatever level they can achieve before the player decides to retire the character!)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Daniel, post: 8310264, member: 694"] Because without epic levels, how else will Dexter get to play Gygax, his 27th level fighter/mage with a +18 soul-sucking sword!? But seriously, the game's high levels should be there for people who like to play them. My old-school fantasy heartbreaker explicitly caps out at 10th level (for humans; 6th to 8th for demihumans) because I feel that high-level play doesn't fit the game's setting; but when I'm playing by-the-book OD&D or AD&D? I have no problem letting OD&D characters go up to 36th level and past that into the Immortals levels, or letting AD&D characters go to 30th and then quest for godhood. It's traditional and it's [I]fun[/I]! (Though of course this does come from a place where the higher levels existing in the game-rules doesn't come with any assumption that they'll ever be achieved by player characters. The concept of a 1st level to 20th level campaign arc makes no sense at all when the campaign milieu is just a sandbox backdrop for the various players' competing characters to all try and work up to whatever level they can achieve before the player decides to retire the character!) [/QUOTE]
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