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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 9853100" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p>I like the DIY aesthetic, the rules lightness, and the darker, low fantasy vibe that is common in the OSR. That said, I'm often irked by the OSR claiming to be... well, old school. You contrast OSR with &quot;modern&quot; games (your own scare quotes) but the OSR is a modern movement, and the champions of it these days, including the ones you mention like ShadowDark, are modern games with many significant modern touches. Back when the OSR was all about bringing out retroclones of older, out of print and unavailable (at the time) D&amp;D rules, it was a very different thing than now when the OSR has become a movement of wannabe edgelords trying to one-up 5e-heads with how hard they play, or whatever, or writing manifestos on the &quot;correct&quot; way to play, or pretending that their modern reactionary movement is the rebirth of some older ur-roleplaying style, when it really isn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 9853100, member: 2205"] I like the DIY aesthetic, the rules lightness, and the darker, low fantasy vibe that is common in the OSR. That said, I'm often irked by the OSR claiming to be... well, old school. You contrast OSR with "modern" games (your own scare quotes) but the OSR is a modern movement, and the champions of it these days, including the ones you mention like ShadowDark, are modern games with many significant modern touches. Back when the OSR was all about bringing out retroclones of older, out of print and unavailable (at the time) D&D rules, it was a very different thing than now when the OSR has become a movement of wannabe edgelords trying to one-up 5e-heads with how hard they play, or whatever, or writing manifestos on the "correct" way to play, or pretending that their modern reactionary movement is the rebirth of some older ur-roleplaying style, when it really isn't. [/QUOTE]

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