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<blockquote data-quote="monboesen" data-source="post: 2109839" data-attributes="member: 4647">There's one aspect of speed we have yet to introduce in this discussion. Thats reflexive speed vs. conscious speed (not a native english speaker so I'm not sure thats the correct terms).Basically any movement you make has to be planned out by your brain and then signals must be send along the nerves to the muscels that will retract in order to carry out the movement.For untrained (combat) movement it would go along like this.Eyes send sensory input to brain; brain decides on reaction; brain sends signal to muscles; muscles contract.This process takes some time, the scale is in the order of tens of seconds (typically about 0,3-0,5 seconds depending on complexity). That is of course much to slow to be effective.But after a sufficient amount of repetitions (scale of tens of thousands) a specific movement becomes reflexive. Signals are still being send to the brain but does not really need to be processed anymore, signals are shunted straight to the right muscles which then contract. This cuts down on reaction speed and allows for instance some martial artists to strike 6-8 times a second.Takes biology teachers hat off and Dm hat on.So in fact speed also depends on a third factor that is neither modelled by Str or Dex but more closely by training. That actually ties nicely in with the highest BAB classes ending up with the most attacks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="monboesen, post: 2109839, member: 4647"] There's one aspect of speed we have yet to introduce in this discussion. Thats reflexive speed vs. conscious speed (not a native english speaker so I'm not sure thats the correct terms). Basically any movement you make has to be planned out by your brain and then signals must be send along the nerves to the muscels that will retract in order to carry out the movement. For untrained (combat) movement it would go along like this. Eyes send sensory input to brain; brain decides on reaction; brain sends signal to muscles; muscles contract. This process takes some time, the scale is in the order of tens of seconds (typically about 0,3-0,5 seconds depending on complexity). That is of course much to slow to be effective. But after a sufficient amount of repetitions (scale of tens of thousands) a specific movement becomes reflexive. Signals are still being send to the brain but does not really need to be processed anymore, signals are shunted straight to the right muscles which then contract. This cuts down on reaction speed and allows for instance some martial artists to strike 6-8 times a second. Takes biology teachers hat off and Dm hat on. So in fact speed also depends on a third factor that is neither modelled by Str or Dex but more closely by training. That actually ties nicely in with the highest BAB classes ending up with the most attacks. [/QUOTE]

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