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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 1741430" data-attributes="member: 19675">There is a lot of sloppy argument in this here thread...1)  Moff Tarkin is not calling those who disagree with him stupid.  He is calling those who make snap judgements based on mere appearances stupid (albeit awkwardly).  Big difference.2)  Every case of the "sacrifice X to save Y" conundrum is extremely fact specific.  It may be worth killing 1000 innocents to save the scientist who is within reach of finding a cure for cancer.  Similarly, it may be equally worth sacrificing an innocent so that 1000 other innocents escape to spread word to the world of the genocide in Sudan.And that holds true even for the Paladin.3)  Dovetailing off of 2) supra, sometimes there is no other option, in life at least.  I do agree, however, that it is somewhat unfair (and definitely dangerous to the campaign) to set up a Kobiashi Maru scenario in an RPG game UNLESS it significantly forwards the plot.One need look no further back in history than the Nazis- there are documented reports of young Germans whose choice was kill X people or else.  Those that chose not to slaughter Jews (or Gypsies, or homosexuals, or whomever the designated victims were to be that day) were killed, right alongside the people they refused to kill.Seeing that made many other young Germans decide to save themselves...although they eventually payed the price at Nuremburg.So, it may well be that the only choices are 1) YOU kill that innocent, or 2) We kill everyone including you.4)  Zweischneid, Evil doesn't neccessarily start off with good intentions.  Sometimes evil beings start off that way.  I'm pretty sure the sociopathic serial killer didn't start off maiming and killing out of a desire for good, other than perhaps to amuse himself, which at the very least, displays an alarming lack of empathy.5)  While animating the dead INVOLUNTARILY is clearly evil as a subversion of the natural order and being extremely disrepsectful of the dead AND the desires of their loved ones, the VOLUNTARY reanimation of the dead is not inherently evil.  The person who embraces unlife to eternally guard his God's temple is not neccessarily evil, nor is the priest who performs the ceremony.</blockquote>

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