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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 1743903" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>So, even in the example of the animator asking for volunteers to be reanimated as undead warriors in the "eternal" defense of their homeland or city...</p><p></p><p>Or King Arthur lying in wait in Avalon?</p><p></p><p>Or the Paladin's actions at the behest of his diety?</p><p></p><p>The person who clings to life as a ghost to protect his beloved?</p><p></p><p>Sorry, that just doesn't equate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is an extremely narrow view of magic.</p><p></p><p>There is more than one set of magical traditions out there, and this is just one of them.</p><p>Many cultures have tales of undead ancestors aiding the living. Similarly, many cultures teach that summoning or contacting the dead requires no special part of their soul or body, just the right ritual, or perhaps a personal connection.</p><p></p><p>To return to the warriors of Valhalla, I think it is a very real possibility that they are undead.</p><p></p><p>1) The Norse gods-Aesir and Vanir- were not immortal, just long lived. The source of their "immortality" was an outside one- the golden apples of Idunn. Without those, they wither and die just like their worshippers. There were few golden apples, just enough to go around.</p><p></p><p>2) The Norse gods had no real control over returning beings from the dead to life. Their only attempt- the resurrection of Baldur- failed.</p><p></p><p>3) There were, in contrast, many warriors in the halls of Valhalla, and there is no legend I have read that says that they were given to eat of Idunn's golden apples of immortality. And yet they drank, ate, and <strong>slaughtered each other for fun and practice</strong> on a daily basis to be ready for the battle of Ragnarok.</p><p></p><p>Where is the evil? Where is the selfishness?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 1743903, member: 19675"] So, even in the example of the animator asking for volunteers to be reanimated as undead warriors in the "eternal" defense of their homeland or city... Or King Arthur lying in wait in Avalon? Or the Paladin's actions at the behest of his diety? The person who clings to life as a ghost to protect his beloved? Sorry, that just doesn't equate. This is an extremely narrow view of magic. There is more than one set of magical traditions out there, and this is just one of them. Many cultures have tales of undead ancestors aiding the living. Similarly, many cultures teach that summoning or contacting the dead requires no special part of their soul or body, just the right ritual, or perhaps a personal connection. To return to the warriors of Valhalla, I think it is a very real possibility that they are undead. 1) The Norse gods-Aesir and Vanir- were not immortal, just long lived. The source of their "immortality" was an outside one- the golden apples of Idunn. Without those, they wither and die just like their worshippers. There were few golden apples, just enough to go around. 2) The Norse gods had no real control over returning beings from the dead to life. Their only attempt- the resurrection of Baldur- failed. 3) There were, in contrast, many warriors in the halls of Valhalla, and there is no legend I have read that says that they were given to eat of Idunn's golden apples of immortality. And yet they drank, ate, and [B]slaughtered each other for fun and practice[/B] on a daily basis to be ready for the battle of Ragnarok. Where is the evil? Where is the selfishness? [/QUOTE]
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