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Why does Undead=Evil
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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 1762303" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>Allow me to throw out an alternative view of the Evil descriptor.</p><p></p><p>Evil is a supernatural force in addition to being a moral judgment.</p><p></p><p>Certain spells tap into dark supernatural forces that are classified as [Evil] and some creatures are composed on an elemental level by supernatural Evil power and therefor have the Evil subtype. Evil alignment is different, orcs are evil but not subtype [Evil] because they are just bad and mean and do not tap supernatural elemental Evil power.</p><p></p><p>All undead are powered by this elemental Evil and so any spell that creates them will have the [Evil] descriptor and cause undead to detect as moderatlely powerful evil just short of comparable power [Evil] outsiders under the detect evil spell even if they are a good baelnorn or the good undead god Osiris.</p><p></p><p>Therefore casting a spell that taps into supernatural evil to create undead, even if not a morally evil act will have the [Evil] descriptor and show up as evil under detect evil.</p><p></p><p>Note that using a neutral spell such as dominate person for a horribly evil purpose will not detect as an evil act or impose the [Evil] descriptor.</p><p> </p><p>And again, animating a corpse with animate object, still forces the dead remains to serve you but does not involve an [Evil] descriptor, it simply is not tapping supernatural Evil power.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 1762303, member: 2209"] Allow me to throw out an alternative view of the Evil descriptor. Evil is a supernatural force in addition to being a moral judgment. Certain spells tap into dark supernatural forces that are classified as [Evil] and some creatures are composed on an elemental level by supernatural Evil power and therefor have the Evil subtype. Evil alignment is different, orcs are evil but not subtype [Evil] because they are just bad and mean and do not tap supernatural elemental Evil power. All undead are powered by this elemental Evil and so any spell that creates them will have the [Evil] descriptor and cause undead to detect as moderatlely powerful evil just short of comparable power [Evil] outsiders under the detect evil spell even if they are a good baelnorn or the good undead god Osiris. Therefore casting a spell that taps into supernatural evil to create undead, even if not a morally evil act will have the [Evil] descriptor and show up as evil under detect evil. Note that using a neutral spell such as dominate person for a horribly evil purpose will not detect as an evil act or impose the [Evil] descriptor. And again, animating a corpse with animate object, still forces the dead remains to serve you but does not involve an [Evil] descriptor, it simply is not tapping supernatural Evil power. [/QUOTE]
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