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<blockquote data-quote="Incenjucar" data-source="post: 1763692" data-attributes="member: 6182"><p>*bzzzt* A skeleton or zombie does not hold the soul of its former owner. The issue is that their body is occupied and not set up for habitation by a normal life form. It's basically like an irradiated Soul Jar effect.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sure you'll agree that scary doesn't exactly mean automatically evil.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Lovely WotC vague language. The debate is as to whether or not acknowledging something actually means it's true.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Personally, I just go with 'internal intent', which WotC does about half the time (I'm sure everyone can agree that WotC is mixing messages like mad when it comes to alignment issues), which is, essentially, objective. It's just that the DM has to force their players not to BS them about the -real- reason a character does things.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p></p><p>It's the ability to intend the state of others for reasons beyond survival, basically. But considering undead are essentially vermin-brained constructs... they're as alignment-deserving as the average heart worm.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You'll have to excuse me if I don't hire a cab so I can get my books. Ask someone here who has their books in less than a 45 minute drive's span to look it up. It's in the DMG, I think, in 3.5.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tiring would suggest it slowed you down. The descriptions are that it weakens you. Fearsome is essentially meaningless except to say "it is not confidence-inducing".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, vague language, but considering what it does, it makes sense. You'd think an obscenely painful form of attack would have side-effects. Even fire doesn't do that (which actually makes sense, since fire would outright kill your nerves).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just as much as they are doing here. What's your point? Are you a WotC employee now?</p><p></p><p>I noted that because, on the WotC boards, we have a NegEn/Undead !=Evil thread pop up at least once a month. And in the more lasting threads, I actually had my books handy. What is revelation to some here is old news to the WotC board members. Ya'll are behind the times. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Feel free to ask customer service.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Incenjucar, post: 1763692, member: 6182"] *bzzzt* A skeleton or zombie does not hold the soul of its former owner. The issue is that their body is occupied and not set up for habitation by a normal life form. It's basically like an irradiated Soul Jar effect. I'm sure you'll agree that scary doesn't exactly mean automatically evil. [INDENT] Lovely WotC vague language. The debate is as to whether or not acknowledging something actually means it's true. Personally, I just go with 'internal intent', which WotC does about half the time (I'm sure everyone can agree that WotC is mixing messages like mad when it comes to alignment issues), which is, essentially, objective. It's just that the DM has to force their players not to BS them about the -real- reason a character does things. [/INDENT] It's the ability to intend the state of others for reasons beyond survival, basically. But considering undead are essentially vermin-brained constructs... they're as alignment-deserving as the average heart worm. You'll have to excuse me if I don't hire a cab so I can get my books. Ask someone here who has their books in less than a 45 minute drive's span to look it up. It's in the DMG, I think, in 3.5. Tiring would suggest it slowed you down. The descriptions are that it weakens you. Fearsome is essentially meaningless except to say "it is not confidence-inducing". Again, vague language, but considering what it does, it makes sense. You'd think an obscenely painful form of attack would have side-effects. Even fire doesn't do that (which actually makes sense, since fire would outright kill your nerves). Just as much as they are doing here. What's your point? Are you a WotC employee now? I noted that because, on the WotC boards, we have a NegEn/Undead !=Evil thread pop up at least once a month. And in the more lasting threads, I actually had my books handy. What is revelation to some here is old news to the WotC board members. Ya'll are behind the times. :] Feel free to ask customer service. [/QUOTE]
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