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<blockquote data-quote="Leatherhead" data-source="post: 7849807" data-attributes="member: 53176"><p>I'm going to give this thread a fair shake, mostly because so few people are, it seems.</p><p></p><p>WotC doesn't hate the Wizard Class. The players who were scarred by 3rd edition hate the Wizard class (and they are very vocal about it).</p><p></p><p>WotC's sin with the 5e Wizard is that they messed up the initial batch of their subclasses. They thought "We will just split the Specialist Wizard into 8 different subclasses and call it a day because that should be enough if we remove the restricted school angle."</p><p></p><p>Which ended up making the Wizard look like this:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]115552[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Not practical at all, and a nightmare to anyone who might have had bad experiences with them in prior editions.</p><p></p><p>It wasn't until recently that some people figured out having 8 subclasses is meaningless if nobody wants to play them. It is incredibly glaring that the two most popular Wizard Schools are the two who aren't in the PHB: Every other class has a PHB option, if not the Basic Rules option in the number 1 and/or 2 slot.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, because Wizards have 8 subclasses in the PHB, and people were scarred by 3e, there is massive push-back to the tune of "Wizards already have enough stuff!" (just look at that picture above) whenever any UA featuring anything for the Wizard class comes out.  People were even hating on the idea of giving the Wizard the meager QoL improvements they got in this last UA.</p><p></p><p>I can understand how, to anyone who started playing after 4e, it might look like WotC has more or less abandoned the Wizard class in 5e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leatherhead, post: 7849807, member: 53176"] I'm going to give this thread a fair shake, mostly because so few people are, it seems. WotC doesn't hate the Wizard Class. The players who were scarred by 3rd edition hate the Wizard class (and they are very vocal about it). WotC's sin with the 5e Wizard is that they messed up the initial batch of their subclasses. They thought "We will just split the Specialist Wizard into 8 different subclasses and call it a day because that should be enough if we remove the restricted school angle." Which ended up making the Wizard look like this: [ATTACH type="full" alt="Worlds_largest_Swiss_Army_knife_wenger_giant_knife.jpg"]115552[/ATTACH] Not practical at all, and a nightmare to anyone who might have had bad experiences with them in prior editions. It wasn't until recently that some people figured out having 8 subclasses is meaningless if nobody wants to play them. It is incredibly glaring that the two most popular Wizard Schools are the two who aren't in the PHB: Every other class has a PHB option, if not the Basic Rules option in the number 1 and/or 2 slot. Unfortunately, because Wizards have 8 subclasses in the PHB, and people were scarred by 3e, there is massive push-back to the tune of "Wizards already have enough stuff!" (just look at that picture above) whenever any UA featuring anything for the Wizard class comes out. People were even hating on the idea of giving the Wizard the meager QoL improvements they got in this last UA. I can understand how, to anyone who started playing after 4e, it might look like WotC has more or less abandoned the Wizard class in 5e. [/QUOTE]
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