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<blockquote data-quote="Todd Roybark" data-source="post: 7851250" data-attributes="member: 6920677"><p>Like I stated, 1st lvl not so great a comparison point....so it is 2nd level.</p><p>Ashrym, your prose indicates intelligence, so please, given this thread was started in good faith, (Despite the click bait title...but eboards are eboards <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ), I would appreciate focusing on the points made, and not editorial errors, with no credible acknowledgment of arguments made.</p><p></p><p><strong>In deepest sincerity, I am interested in people’s thoughts, and this is not intended as an ad hominem**</strong> </p><p></p><p>I am not interested, however in rhetorical games.....let us just communicate, and not try to “win”.</p><p></p><p>MoonSong, if the class footing is so off, and a large body of spells known is needed....then wouldn’t a viable solution be to make Sorcerers CHA based Wizards and eliminate the Spellbook?</p><p></p><p>Wizards are the ONLY class after all that Literally has to pay gold pieces to use a class feature.</p><p></p><p>"Hey Wizard player, everyone around you at the gaming table gets some cool new features and new spells, for free. You get a handful of new spells as well, but hope you brought gold, because you have to PAY gold for them"</p><p></p><p>Honestly, thematically what heavy lifting, what archetype is the Sorc, the best and only way to represent it? If the Sorc class disappeared in the Forest Perilous would the worlds of D&D stop working, is this an essential class?</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind what I have stated before, I like the UA changes....they are cool, but give the Wizard some ribbons....how about Arcane Implements ala 4e or some other flavor points.</p><p></p><p>To use an analogy....if the Sorc is a high performance car and the Wiz is a SUV, </p><p>then many people on this board are saying if the auto manufacturer decided to add a feature, say air conditioning to the Sorc Spotscar to broaden the appeal, the auto manufacturer should not add air conditioning to the Wiz SUV because it already hauls kids well?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Todd Roybark, post: 7851250, member: 6920677"] Like I stated, 1st lvl not so great a comparison point....so it is 2nd level. Ashrym, your prose indicates intelligence, so please, given this thread was started in good faith, (Despite the click bait title...but eboards are eboards :) ), I would appreciate focusing on the points made, and not editorial errors, with no credible acknowledgment of arguments made. [B]In deepest sincerity, I am interested in people’s thoughts, and this is not intended as an ad hominem**[/B] I am not interested, however in rhetorical games.....let us just communicate, and not try to “win”. MoonSong, if the class footing is so off, and a large body of spells known is needed....then wouldn’t a viable solution be to make Sorcerers CHA based Wizards and eliminate the Spellbook? Wizards are the ONLY class after all that Literally has to pay gold pieces to use a class feature. "Hey Wizard player, everyone around you at the gaming table gets some cool new features and new spells, for free. You get a handful of new spells as well, but hope you brought gold, because you have to PAY gold for them" Honestly, thematically what heavy lifting, what archetype is the Sorc, the best and only way to represent it? If the Sorc class disappeared in the Forest Perilous would the worlds of D&D stop working, is this an essential class? Keep in mind what I have stated before, I like the UA changes....they are cool, but give the Wizard some ribbons....how about Arcane Implements ala 4e or some other flavor points. To use an analogy....if the Sorc is a high performance car and the Wiz is a SUV, then many people on this board are saying if the auto manufacturer decided to add a feature, say air conditioning to the Sorc Spotscar to broaden the appeal, the auto manufacturer should not add air conditioning to the Wiz SUV because it already hauls kids well? [/QUOTE]
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