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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7851800" data-attributes="member: 93670">As have I.&nbsp; My point has always been &amp; is still that classes need to be looked at as a sum of their whole rather than individual pieces in isolated vacuums&nbsp; and that cantrip versatility should be on long rest at least rather than on level for the same reasons that spell versatility is on rest rather than on level (I even quoted a long segment from crawford talking about why it's on rest when sorcerers can already do that on level) <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/why-does-wizards-of-the-coast-hate-wizards.668436/post-7851673" target="_blank">earlier</a> plus someone else linked to it even earlier without doing transcription.It's the people making ridiculous claims to ague against that point that keep dragging things off into irrelevant weed filled tangents.&nbsp; Frankly, other than &quot;wizards are too good&quot;, I have no idea what point mistwell is trying to make and don't think that I care any longer</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7851800, member: 93670"] As have I. My point has always been & is still that classes need to be looked at as a sum of their whole rather than individual pieces in isolated vacuums and that cantrip versatility should be on long rest at least rather than on level for the same reasons that spell versatility is on rest rather than on level [I](I even quoted a long segment from crawford talking about why it's on rest when sorcerers can already do that on level) [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/why-does-wizards-of-the-coast-hate-wizards.668436/post-7851673']earlier[/URL] plus someone else linked to it even earlier without doing transcription.[/I] It's the people making ridiculous claims to ague against that point that keep dragging things off into irrelevant weed filled tangents. Frankly, other than "wizards are too good", I have no idea what point mistwell is trying to make and don't think that I care any longer [/QUOTE]

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