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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7851919" data-attributes="member: 22779">No.  They are not.While a few of the classes might be lagging a bit (fighter, I'm looking at you), the notion that we're actually in a 3 Tier system anywhere near what 3e was is ludicrous.  It's simply not true.  Take wizards.  Wizards in 3e were massively overpowered because of the ability to craft magic items and create wizards which were no longer bound by Vancian casting limits.  You simply had enough scrolls and/or wands that you basically never ran out of spells.  Add to this the MASSIVE list of spells that 3e had in addition to the meta-magic feats and wizards truly were Tier 1.  I mean, good grief, 3e had more 1st level spells than 5e has spells total.  Now, it's extremely difficult for a wizard to dominate a game.  You no longer have the ability to completely bypass the memorization limits with wands and scrolls.  You no longer have the ability to stack effects - no more Greater Invisible, Flying, Whatevered Wizards raining death and destruction.  PLUS, you have a vastly truncated spell list - wizards can't summon anything anymore, meaning you can no longer create teleporting armies the way you could in 3e, just as an example.Look, I get that you want to bang this Tier drum.  I get it.  But, outside of white room theory crafting, people just aren't getting the results you are talking about.  Games are not being totally dominated by full casters to the point where you were playing casters and caddies.  The non-casters are very much holding their own in most levels of play.At worst, we have Tier 1 and Tier 2 classes and, realistically, the difference between the two is not all that noticeable.</blockquote>

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