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Why does WotC put obviously bad or illogical elements in their adventures?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7197309" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Well, it also doesn't rule out that they Hill Giants are the remnant of the honor guard sent by the Princess Ponies of Rainbow-Unicorn land, either. You lack evidence to prove your point; insisting I find evidence to prove the negative is ridiculous.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree -- there needs to be some point of comparison to the plot, if a similarity of events in parts or a similarity of character or a similarity of continuity (in the case of a follow-on story). None of that is evident outside of a 1) King, who doesn't divide his kingdom and doesn't hold a flattery contest and so is nothing like Lear except for his kinginess, 2) two elder daughters that are not-nice(tm), but who don't conspire against their father and are not granted lands and power by him and do not engage in any betrayals at all in the story and so are nothing like Goneril and Regan; and 3) a youngest daughter, who ascends the throne as part of the established succession when her father is kidnapped by an evil dragon and who rules both in name and truth but is being deceived by the same evil dragon, and so is really nothing like Cordelia.</p><p></p><p>Again, hanging your assertion on scant comparisons of familial relations is very, very weak. But, then, you're unfamiliar with one of the works you're trying to compare, so this is a patently ridiculous conversation to begin with.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, the point where he banishes here because he's decided he doesn't like her anymore, and favors his eldest with his kingdom because he believes they love him more? </p><p></p><p></p><p>Wait, are you now saying that you cannot tell if one thing is inspired by another in any way because the inspiration may just be well hidden? Huh, I guess then Harry Potter really is inspired by Tarzan, and there's no argument that can defeat this because no evidence of such inspiration in the work is necessary.</p><p></p><p>Again, a patently ridiculous claim.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who said anything about explanation of writing decisions? I'm talking about a single sentence to explain the reason the hill giants are there as part of the plot of the story. They spend lots and lots of words on the story plot all over the place, so it's hard to claim they suddenly became parsimonious about this one detail for reasons.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which has an entirely different meaning in that context. And 'foolish' is not in the description of the hill giants.</p><p></p><p>Again, ridiculousness. I'd perchance to take you seriously if you even made an effort to know the material you're attempting to compare. As it is, I figure you're only in it for the XP.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7197309, member: 16814"] Well, it also doesn't rule out that they Hill Giants are the remnant of the honor guard sent by the Princess Ponies of Rainbow-Unicorn land, either. You lack evidence to prove your point; insisting I find evidence to prove the negative is ridiculous. I disagree -- there needs to be some point of comparison to the plot, if a similarity of events in parts or a similarity of character or a similarity of continuity (in the case of a follow-on story). None of that is evident outside of a 1) King, who doesn't divide his kingdom and doesn't hold a flattery contest and so is nothing like Lear except for his kinginess, 2) two elder daughters that are not-nice(tm), but who don't conspire against their father and are not granted lands and power by him and do not engage in any betrayals at all in the story and so are nothing like Goneril and Regan; and 3) a youngest daughter, who ascends the throne as part of the established succession when her father is kidnapped by an evil dragon and who rules both in name and truth but is being deceived by the same evil dragon, and so is really nothing like Cordelia. Again, hanging your assertion on scant comparisons of familial relations is very, very weak. But, then, you're unfamiliar with one of the works you're trying to compare, so this is a patently ridiculous conversation to begin with. Yes, the point where he banishes here because he's decided he doesn't like her anymore, and favors his eldest with his kingdom because he believes they love him more? Wait, are you now saying that you cannot tell if one thing is inspired by another in any way because the inspiration may just be well hidden? Huh, I guess then Harry Potter really is inspired by Tarzan, and there's no argument that can defeat this because no evidence of such inspiration in the work is necessary. Again, a patently ridiculous claim. Who said anything about explanation of writing decisions? I'm talking about a single sentence to explain the reason the hill giants are there as part of the plot of the story. They spend lots and lots of words on the story plot all over the place, so it's hard to claim they suddenly became parsimonious about this one detail for reasons. Which has an entirely different meaning in that context. And 'foolish' is not in the description of the hill giants. Again, ridiculousness. I'd perchance to take you seriously if you even made an effort to know the material you're attempting to compare. As it is, I figure you're only in it for the XP. [/QUOTE]
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