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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7446222" data-attributes="member: 6880599">I have never had a GM play it that way or run it that way. I keep the same DCs and its usually easier if people are helping you do something but isn't that the nature of &quot;helping&quot; because if its not then its not really helping to my mind. With that in mind, its also completely possible that some skill tests could have a DC that is too high for one person to do and you would need a group to do it. I honestly think the biggest problem with DCs is that people keep trying to balance them. I think its better when you don't and remove expectations of pass or fail. When you think something is impossible (DC30) to do and then a player does it (rolls a 20 +4 skill, +3 lvl 5 proficiency bonus, +3 expertise) then... I am all for seeing where it goes even if they had advantage due to &quot;help&quot;. At a DC30, its not balanced, its unlikely for even a high level groups to succeed considering most people only get +6 proficiency at level 20 for a max test of 26, So it might be that they only have a chance to complete the task as a group by finding someway reasonable to lower the DC.Just my opinion. Do it how it makes you happy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 7446222, member: 6880599"] I have never had a GM play it that way or run it that way. I keep the same DCs and its usually easier if people are helping you do something but isn't that the nature of "helping" because if its not then its not really helping to my mind. With that in mind, its also completely possible that some skill tests could have a DC that is too high for one person to do and you would need a group to do it. I honestly think the biggest problem with DCs is that people keep trying to balance them. I think its better when you don't and remove expectations of pass or fail. When you think something is impossible (DC30) to do and then a player does it (rolls a 20 +4 skill, +3 lvl 5 proficiency bonus, +3 expertise) then... I am all for seeing where it goes even if they had advantage due to "help". At a DC30, its not balanced, its unlikely for even a high level groups to succeed considering most people only get +6 proficiency at level 20 for a max test of 26, So it might be that they only have a chance to complete the task as a group by finding someway reasonable to lower the DC. Just my opinion. Do it how it makes you happy. [/QUOTE]

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