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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wyvern" data-source="post: 7449000" data-attributes="member: 2374">I haven't read the official hardback adventures myself, so I can't tell you whether I think the DCs assigned by the writers of those adventures are reasonable or not. However, I *can* offer a couple of thoughts on why DC 10 checks in a high-level adventure might not be entirely inappropriate.First of, all I dislike games that ramp up the DCs of every task just to keep pace with the PC' level. Listening at a door shouldn't become more difficult just because they're in a deeper level of the dungeon. All that does is break verisimilitude and make leveling up feel pointless.Secondly, referring back to your previous post -- DC 10 isn't for the Really Important checks, it's for the minor obstacles that the players have to overcome in order to get to the Really Important checks. It's not necessarily a bad thing if those checks become trivially easy as the players gain levels; it can give them a sense of accomplishment.Thirdly, as a corollary to the second point: some checks are *supposed* to be trivially easy because the players have to pass them to in order to proceed. To use your example, if the players *have* to find the secret door in order to access some vital part of the dungeon, it's not good design to give it too high a DC.You might ask what the point is of asking for a check at all in those situations, and that's a fair question. Some games, like the Gumshoe system, actually bypass the dice-rolling for certain tasks and just let the PCs automatically succeed. That's a valid design choice. But I think some players *like* rolling the dice, even if the outcome is a foregone conclusion, because it makes them feel like they (and their PCs) are active participants in their success instead of simply having the plot handed to them by the GM.Wyvern</blockquote>

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