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<blockquote data-quote="M.L. Martin" data-source="post: 4678762" data-attributes="member: 4086">Judging from history, WotC's layoffs have little or nothing to do with D&amp;D sales. They were laying off people semi-regularly in the early 3E years, after all, which seem to have been a peak for the game. And in the days before they bought TSR, they were somewhat infamous for regular layoffs, IIRC.&nbsp; I think it's more a corporate culture thing, really, especially noting that the layoffs tended to pick up again after the TSR logo was replaced with the WotC logo. &nbsp; Could we settle for 'suspicious of online reactions'? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I suspect they haven't gotten nearly the conversion of the hardcore fanbase that they would have liked, but that doesn't necessarily speak to the larger success of the game--it's possible that they've made up for it with the creation of new fans. &nbsp; And FWIW, I'm really rather indifferent to the two Great Powers in the D&amp;D Edition War--both 4E and 3E have enough elements that rub me the wrong way that I'm not truly satisfied with either, although there are certainly a lot of things I like about both. Give me a D&amp;D: Saga Edition or something that combines the 'plug and play' of 4E, the flexibility and breadth of 3E, and the spirit of 2E, and I'm there. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="M.L. Martin, post: 4678762, member: 4086"] Judging from history, WotC's layoffs have little or nothing to do with D&D sales. They were laying off people semi-regularly in the early 3E years, after all, which seem to have been a peak for the game. And in the days before they bought TSR, they were somewhat infamous for regular layoffs, IIRC. I think it's more a corporate culture thing, really, especially noting that the layoffs tended to pick up again after the TSR logo was replaced with the WotC logo. Could we settle for 'suspicious of online reactions'? :) I suspect they haven't gotten nearly the conversion of the hardcore fanbase that they would have liked, but that doesn't necessarily speak to the larger success of the game--it's possible that they've made up for it with the creation of new fans. And FWIW, I'm really rather indifferent to the two Great Powers in the D&D Edition War--both 4E and 3E have enough elements that rub me the wrong way that I'm not truly satisfied with either, although there are certainly a lot of things I like about both. Give me a D&D: Saga Edition or something that combines the 'plug and play' of 4E, the flexibility and breadth of 3E, and the spirit of 2E, and I'm there. :) [/QUOTE]

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