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<blockquote data-quote="GMMichael" data-source="post: 8065784" data-attributes="member: 6685730">I don't think PCs are seeing dishonor.&nbsp; They're projecting: &quot;well, if I were my enemy, I'd just kill me.&quot;&nbsp; So maybe raise the stakes against PC killing, and players will see those same considerations applied to their potential captors.+1 for the metagame problem.&nbsp; In a game without death spirals, it's hard to tell when fleeing and surrender would actually be a good idea.&nbsp; So you ask about hit points, and look at your own.&nbsp; Then, even if you're low on HP, you can still fight like nobody's business, so you do.A PC with a broken leg would rule out fleeing.&nbsp; Would a PC with a broken arm rule out fighting?I give PCs the option to decide their fate when they've taken too much damage.&nbsp; Death is one option, but that means discarding a character that may have some player investment in it.&nbsp; Surrender is another, and looks pretty good since it doesn't involve drawing up a new character.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMMichael, post: 8065784, member: 6685730"] I don't think PCs are seeing dishonor. They're projecting: "well, if I were my enemy, I'd just kill me." So maybe raise the stakes against PC killing, and players will see those same considerations applied to their potential captors. +1 for the metagame problem. In a game without death spirals, it's hard to tell when fleeing and surrender would actually be a good idea. So you ask about hit points, and look at your own. Then, even if you're low on HP, you can still fight like nobody's business, so you do. A PC with a broken leg would rule out fleeing. Would a PC with a broken arm rule out fighting? I give PCs the option to decide their fate when they've taken too much damage. Death is one option, but that means discarding a character that may have some player investment in it. Surrender is another, and looks pretty good since it doesn't involve drawing up a new character. [/QUOTE]

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