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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 6084400" data-attributes="member: 11821">...no, no it's not.And this isn't about your personal experience.  This is about fictional characters in a fantasy world, some of whom can call creatures from the outer planes to carry out their will.  If Fighters are going to be Mundane Guy, they should be given the tools to actually be Mundane Guy.  That includes a breadth of skills such as you'd find in any movie or novel where you'd want to call someone a "FIGHTER."As it stands, if a Fighter is going to be competent at stuff like swimming, climbing, etc. he needs to spend his Background on that and ... well, that's all he's really good at.  Just like poor old 2-skill-point Redgar in 3e. If two guys are trying to climb a cliff face, one a Fighter and one a Cleric, with similar strength, the Fighter should have the leg up.Second, it's about some semblance of sanity about classes.  If we have three pillars, and we're taking this seriously, saying "Fighters are only good if there's a fight going on right now" is incredibly short-sighted.As to your list - I am suggesting that, in the course of being a competent, well-rounded, athletic paragon of martial virtue, odds are they would have picked up something like this.  Backgrounds give the same thing to everyone, and so far the Fighter and Barbarian are the only ones who wouldn't have picked up something else in the course of their work.-O</blockquote>