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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 4271030" data-attributes="member: 5143">That's exactly the point.  In previous editions the cleric could act as the tank with no problem.  It could easily achieve the same AC as any fighter and it was very close to the same hitpoints plus the ability to cast spells allowed it to increase its own AC and hitpoints and provide protection to a lot of things that fighters didn't have.  They were better tanks than the tanks.Now, they are significantly worse tanks than the actual tanks, meaning that the player who chooses fighter or paladin has a reason to be there over the cleric.</blockquote>