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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herobizkit" data-source="post: 5076542" data-attributes="member: 36150">Since I started the thread, I thought I'd better plant my flag for my camp of choice.Mechanically (and I mean GAME mechanically), guns "should" be a dice better than standard range weapons.  I am still running 3e; Handguns/pistols do 2d4, Rifles do 2d6, and Double Tap is borrowed from d20 Modern.  Also IMC, I see guns potentially being as advanced as "Wild West" style revolvers and lever-action single-shot rifles.  That's my own style choice for my own homebrew settings.  My campaigns also tend to run magic-high... insofar as all casters are spontaneous casters.  For those races who do not traditionally embrace magic, they embrace technology instead.  Iron Kingdoms would be the closest analogy to what I like to see in a fantasy setting.Here's the argument I don't understand in the context of a D&D universe - if Plate Armor is designed to withstand bullets, why isn't there armor designed to withstand fireballs, too?  The 'realism' of gun dynamics goes right out the window when you place them alongside magic.If wands of magic missile are so common (ex Eberron), then so must be the persons who can use said wands, otherwise why mass-produce them?  In a Core only game, such wands are generally limited to Wizards and Sorcerers; Bards and Rogues can finesse them with Use Magic Device, and a Cleric with the Magic domain can use them as well.  But a generic peasant can't even make it glow funny.  The same generic peasant CAN pick up a bow and pray that it works.  The same generic peasant will be very happy to get his hands on a gun - easier to use (Pistols are Simple weapons IMC; Rifles are Martial) with no training necessary.And don't even get me started on Mages who want to make guns better. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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