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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 5080681" data-attributes="member: 50895">Actually it is factual, and if it seemed insulting, I was only responding in kind. Your previous post "seemed" to indicate that I was wrong in my declaration that the Mongols were an effective fighting machine, and bows were a major part of that. I never said it was their only effective tactic.The post I was responding to seemed to indicate - Mongols were effective only due to their numbers, which by declaration negates any other citing of Mongol effectiveness.However, I see in this response that you actually realize that numbers are not the only effective tools for Mongols - large forces of trained fighters, highly mobile cavalry and mounted infantry, skill in siege tactics (learned in China), cutting off supply lines and lines of communication, and use of fear tactics. All true, and I am in total agreement. If you qualified your previous statement to emphasize that numbers in addtion to the above points, I would not have responded with such "snarkiness."You also need to add to that list of Mongol battle tactics is they did their campaigning in the winter, as their homeland is largely mush in the warmer months, whereas Europeans generally campaigned in the summer. Finding a horde at your door, when your snuggling to keep warm - gave the Mongols a serious tactical advantage.Regarding your list of Armor Books - except for some of the newer material that is being based on actual testing of said arms and armament, most of the books you mention, actually are rewritten excerpts from Stone's Guide to Armor and Weapons - which I see as the only definitely work on armor, I disdain most of the other sources as copied text from Stone's Guide and nothing much new.While I only minored in history - my information is based facts. So my "insulting comeback" was only based on facts.Oh and Tale's point about "bullet proof" being armor tested by firing a gun is true - source: Stone's Guide to Armor and Weapons.</blockquote>

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