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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Meatboy" data-source="post: 5086047" data-attributes="member: 40857">"Why do we expect guns to have a huge effect on the in game world if magic hasn't?" -ProfessorCirno  For me this hits the nail on the head for why I am not a big fan of guns in DnD.   As has been stated a few times in this thread longbows take years for someone to really master. Then again supposedly so does training a wizard. I am fairly certain that all it would take is one king or lord to note that fact and the entire dynamic of the game world should change.   I mean why spend thousands of gold training and arming knights. ( Let's not forget that knights spent a lifetime training in their arts too! ) when for a few hundred, assuming you had some relatively intelligent people in your land, say INT 13 or more, you could train them as wizards and just have them mass cast magic missile. I really feel that if historically kings could field thousand of knights, bowmen or infantry that once you introduce magic it would not be long before massed mages became the norm and not the exception. Thus ensuring that something like the gun would probably never even be thought of.</blockquote>