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<blockquote data-quote="icebreaker" data-source="post: 333067" data-attributes="member: 3725"><p>Being somewhat new to the world of DnD on the net and having come from the "use to play in high school" to now playing 3E DnD there are a few things I can say as far as why untill the last couple of months I wouldn't have considered purchasing Non Wizard Material.</p><p></p><p>First the whole D20 thing.. I bought the Core rules about a year ago slowly digesting them trying to get some interest in some online friends to play.. and I understood the concept of D20 as a rule system but didn’t' really trust that if a product had a D20 Stamp on it that it was really DnD...Its taken reading sights like Enworld and a few others to go DING! ok doesn't look like a Bigmac.. Doesn't smell like a BigMac.. but *chomp chomp* yep takes like a BigMac. </p><p></p><p>Also yes flipping thru a lot of D20 books. Wizards Products ooze quality and a consistency to them.. whether the Content is all that is not the point.. the presentation is fantastic.. tho some don't like their latest style.. it is very professional.</p><p></p><p>I think as well 3rd party suppliers really need to start looking at other ways of promoting their work.. and it needs to be visible for both the retailers and the buying public.</p><p></p><p>Until such a time that you are a proven Quality Identity (I'd say sword and sorcery is in this position now) You need Endorsements from reputable sources that will convince retailers that there is a good chance your product will sell and that its a quality product their customers will be happy with. As well as for those looking for new books.</p><p></p><p>Ok here is an example</p><p>Death in Freeport.. never would have ever picked it up to look at it..</p><p>Now slap a sticker on the front that says </p><p>DnD Creator Monte Cook says "IF you like city adventures, you'll like these; I'll use some of it in my game."</p><p>I’d check it out at the very least.. I’ve heard of Monte Cook.. I haven’t heard of Freeport.</p><p></p><p>Or</p><p>Freeport: City of Adventure with a sticker that says </p><p>Winner of 2002 GenCon Ennie! One of the BEST of the year!</p><p></p><p>You see what I mean.. cheesy yep.. does it work.. coarse it does.. its adds credibility to your products.. ya you might need to pay them for the quotes ect ect..</p><p>But I guarantee you just that would get more people to pick it up on the wall and flip thru it.</p><p>Show a retailer with a printout of how it rates on a top website like enworld and they might see it as a better sell.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also Get Wizards to allow third party D20 people to incorporate DnD into the d20 logo somehow so you know this D20 product is for DnD would help for the newer more casual players that aren’t online and quiet so well informed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="icebreaker, post: 333067, member: 3725"] Being somewhat new to the world of DnD on the net and having come from the "use to play in high school" to now playing 3E DnD there are a few things I can say as far as why untill the last couple of months I wouldn't have considered purchasing Non Wizard Material. First the whole D20 thing.. I bought the Core rules about a year ago slowly digesting them trying to get some interest in some online friends to play.. and I understood the concept of D20 as a rule system but didn’t' really trust that if a product had a D20 Stamp on it that it was really DnD...Its taken reading sights like Enworld and a few others to go DING! ok doesn't look like a Bigmac.. Doesn't smell like a BigMac.. but *chomp chomp* yep takes like a BigMac. Also yes flipping thru a lot of D20 books. Wizards Products ooze quality and a consistency to them.. whether the Content is all that is not the point.. the presentation is fantastic.. tho some don't like their latest style.. it is very professional. I think as well 3rd party suppliers really need to start looking at other ways of promoting their work.. and it needs to be visible for both the retailers and the buying public. Until such a time that you are a proven Quality Identity (I'd say sword and sorcery is in this position now) You need Endorsements from reputable sources that will convince retailers that there is a good chance your product will sell and that its a quality product their customers will be happy with. As well as for those looking for new books. Ok here is an example Death in Freeport.. never would have ever picked it up to look at it.. Now slap a sticker on the front that says DnD Creator Monte Cook says "IF you like city adventures, you'll like these; I'll use some of it in my game." I’d check it out at the very least.. I’ve heard of Monte Cook.. I haven’t heard of Freeport. Or Freeport: City of Adventure with a sticker that says Winner of 2002 GenCon Ennie! One of the BEST of the year! You see what I mean.. cheesy yep.. does it work.. coarse it does.. its adds credibility to your products.. ya you might need to pay them for the quotes ect ect.. But I guarantee you just that would get more people to pick it up on the wall and flip thru it. Show a retailer with a printout of how it rates on a top website like enworld and they might see it as a better sell. Also Get Wizards to allow third party D20 people to incorporate DnD into the d20 logo somehow so you know this D20 product is for DnD would help for the newer more casual players that aren’t online and quiet so well informed. [/QUOTE]
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