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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7201921" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>A big part of D&D is overcoming adversity. You will not always be in your comfort zone or your effectiveness zone, yet you still need to be able to respond. If you've ever played a caster who's low on slots with an unknown number of encounters still ahead before you can get a long rest, you know that adaptability and creativity are important when you are thrust into a situation where your go-to plan isn't available. And it <em>shouldn't</em> be available all the time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Bows are not the only ranged weapons. There are a number of thrown weapons which have the advantage of being one-handed. Which means you can hold a two-handed weapon (if you're that and not sword & board) in your off-hand and attack. Poof, no action economy issues. If you need mroe range a hand crossbow can do it while still having the same action economy, though you might have to drop the hand crossbow if you get an opportunity to close and melee. Carry more than one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This isn't really correct, because you are using a ranged weapon because you can't close to melee. So melee damage is zero - you will always be more effective then zero.</p><p></p><p>If you are using a thrown weapon, it uses your STR, so it's just as effective.</p><p></p><p>And again, even if it's DEX based, if your option is DEX attack or nothing, a DEX attack is more effective in 100% of the cases.</p><p></p><p>YES, you are not nearly as good as a dedicated archer. YES, that's an intentional part of the system. You are not ineffective, and you also can think about how to get around the problem. Are there other enemies to close with? Something the foe wants to protect? Maybe next time you find items put dibs in on the boots of flying instead of the plate +1.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is true - you need to set expectations with your party. But also rely on them. If you're not good with a bow, maybe you should have asked the wizard to prepare a Fly spell for you in case you hit flying enemies. Overcoming obstacles is part of the game, and it's up to you to make it happen</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7201921, member: 20564"] A big part of D&D is overcoming adversity. You will not always be in your comfort zone or your effectiveness zone, yet you still need to be able to respond. If you've ever played a caster who's low on slots with an unknown number of encounters still ahead before you can get a long rest, you know that adaptability and creativity are important when you are thrust into a situation where your go-to plan isn't available. And it [I]shouldn't[/I] be available all the time. Bows are not the only ranged weapons. There are a number of thrown weapons which have the advantage of being one-handed. Which means you can hold a two-handed weapon (if you're that and not sword & board) in your off-hand and attack. Poof, no action economy issues. If you need mroe range a hand crossbow can do it while still having the same action economy, though you might have to drop the hand crossbow if you get an opportunity to close and melee. Carry more than one. This isn't really correct, because you are using a ranged weapon because you can't close to melee. So melee damage is zero - you will always be more effective then zero. If you are using a thrown weapon, it uses your STR, so it's just as effective. And again, even if it's DEX based, if your option is DEX attack or nothing, a DEX attack is more effective in 100% of the cases. YES, you are not nearly as good as a dedicated archer. YES, that's an intentional part of the system. You are not ineffective, and you also can think about how to get around the problem. Are there other enemies to close with? Something the foe wants to protect? Maybe next time you find items put dibs in on the boots of flying instead of the plate +1. This is true - you need to set expectations with your party. But also rely on them. If you're not good with a bow, maybe you should have asked the wizard to prepare a Fly spell for you in case you hit flying enemies. Overcoming obstacles is part of the game, and it's up to you to make it happen [/QUOTE]
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