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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ArchfiendBobbie" data-source="post: 7201975" data-attributes="member: 6867728">It's used as a measure of baseline knowledge. That's why the attribute bonus applies to any Intelligence-based knowledge checks; even if an 10-int PC has added the same amount of knowledge as a 20-Int, they still are disadavantaged because they had a lower knowledge level to begin with and won't generally succeed as well.IQ isn't a measure of knowledge. It's a measure of capacity to learn. Someone who hasn't learned much over their life is assumed to have a low capacity to learn to begin with.I admit I used a trap statement there, so you can call me on that.Strawman argument. I never argued that Wisdom is knowledge. I did point out that Wisdom in the game and wisdom as you are discussing it are not the same thing, and pointing out how you have repeatedly ignored that the stats do not measure what you have wanted them to measure... unless, of course, it is to your advantage.Another strawman. I never claimed you said that; that was an example.Plus, you outright said, and I quote,"It still establishes that age gives lots of knowledge.""Age does translate into much greater knowledge, though.""Age is one of the main factors for knowledge.""They are more intelligent and knowledgeable than anyone else in the party, with MAYBE the exception of an old elf."I have been arguing that age does not automatically translate to knowledge, while you have been arguing the opposite. Please stick to your own argument.Then why don't most of the dragons have knowledge skills?Check their stat blocks; none of the chromatic dragons have a skill that indicates any actual knowledge. The only metallic dragons that do are brass and silver. Why, if age translates into knowledge, do only two out of ten species of dragon have any knowledge skills?It's right there in the stat blocks. Despite their great age, even most ancient gold dragons don't have enough knowledge to even have the history skill.Quite a few of them do vary. Read their individual entries. That section was a general summary of the groups as a whole, not specifics about how each dragon acts.It does give you an opening for how to insult them, though.Then why do people in real life who have that same sense of superiority get offended by inferior twits insulting them? Jobs, Tovald, Putin... The list goes on and on.Depends on the dragon. From the entries, it makes it quite clear a number of them would respond immediately.Why would red dragons be noted for their rage if they didn't rage often? Basic logic there. And the most basic source of rage? Some gnat daring to insult it.Far more proof than you've presented.Tremendous amounts of experience and knowledge not reflected by either the fluff text or their stat blocks. There's no evidence they have that tremendous amount of experience or knowledge in general. Some individuals do, but they're exceptions, not rules.No, you just claimed something you can't show any evidence for at all. And, you're the one who started this drift; I'm just showing you how you are taking things out of context to provide an impression that isn't real.Prove it. Show me some evidence it is. So far, there isn't any.</blockquote>

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