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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 7202106" data-attributes="member: 19675">From the very first...1. the knight class has a mechanic.  It was used.  It failed.2. Goading something into attacking requires the DM buy into it.  Despite the quality of his RP- as mentioned, the player had the room enjoying his antics- the DM didn't have the dragons attack.  You want to blame someone in this case, blame the DM, not the player.You were wrong about the knight player's quality of RP.You were wrong about the efficacy of the AoO build...and which character it was.You were wrong to assume the choice not to select a single high quality spell out of several implied poor prep.It was 10 years ago.  But the details beyond the fact that several people in the room enjoyed the RP are largely immaterial.Still...yes, ancestries were questioned, hoards were threatened, etc.  Dragons made their saves; DM felt uncompelled to have them be sufficiently provoked by the RP to attack him.(Dropping trow was NOT done, probably because trying that move in combat while in full armor is both time consuming and stupidly dangerous.)I mean that would have left the dragons with a completely clear path to attack the arcanist simultaneously from 2 different angles- remember flanking?  The arcanist would have been dead by the time I had a chance to grab the knight and throw him.That would have meant the #2 biggest source of damage- and the one with the greatest range- in the encounter would be gone, leaving me as the only character able to hit the dragons in flight.After they finished me off, the knight would have been easy pickings.Conclusions!  It helps if you don't jump to them!You'd have to ask the guy who played the character.In a one-shot with only 3 PCs, hard decisions about your build have to be made.  Some will probably be bad, or at least suboptimal.The knight was able to contribute directly to every combat save the last.  His decision to eschew ranged weapons was based on RP- he found them dishonorable- and he preferred the classic 2-hand sword over a polearm.The arcanist used most of his resources, and we won the final battle.  So it's hard for me to argue the player chose poorly.Besides, as you said:Yet you simultaneously insist the knight should have distracted them with taunts?  Really?. That's the hill you want to plant your flag on?And:Insulting someone sufficiently to attack you while they're already engaged in combat with someone else is a lot harder than you think.When I was in the public defender's office, I never heard one gang member confide in me that he changed targets mid-shootout from the guys with guns to the unarmed dude shouting mean words at them.  IME, most violent types can shout "I'll deal with you later!" at their hecklers without abandoning proper violence on those they deem clear & present threats.</blockquote>

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