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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jollyninja" data-source="post: 2881157" data-attributes="member: 3208">In my games, death is a far more permanent situation then most. It's an Iron heroes game using the setting info from FR. I have told the players that I am going for a low magic style of play and none of them have seriously complained about not playing clerics or wizards. When death is meaningless, my games tend to tpk because the players know that if a couple of them survive, they will recover the bodies and get everyone rezed so a few rounds of not really paying attention to the tactics of their enemy (cutting off potential avenues of retreat for their foes for example) have made things go poorly. my players have walked into some seriously obvious traps just to feel out the opponents before i switched to IH. now they search everything, sometimes with multiple pc's and pay a great deal more attention to tactics. I enjoy the game more and have only killed one pc (of 7) running red hand of doom with a large group that has no magic (exception being a cleric of tyr they saved in another adventure to keep em alive when things go way, way south) and is 2 levels under the reccomended.edit: yes, i kill pc's when they make mistakes that warrant it and are fighting foes capable of exploiting the mistake.</blockquote>