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<blockquote data-quote="Doc_Klueless" data-source="post: 9290632" data-attributes="member: 261">I've been the primary GM for my groups since about 1987. I'm tired of it. I burned out. It rapidly became a JOB to put together things for the players. To cater to their wants and wishes over mine.I'm frequently amazed by the number of players who will bitch about their GM and their game but won't have the gumption or drive to take up the reins and run a game. Who will come into my groups and demand that I alter something to fit their needs. But when I say, &quot;No. But I'm willing to play in the game that you run&quot; because I think it'd honestly be fun to play in, I get a lot of guff about how I'm inflexible or gatekeeping or some such nonsense.I usually end the conversation with [paraphrase]: &quot;Stop. You're not paying me and I'm not selling my services. This is free so feel free to stay or go. Either way is fine with me.&quot;Because so many players want to play and not GM, my tables (VTT or otherwise) are always full. I don't need them as much as they need a GM. And, really, with the explosion of VTTs, they don't NEED me either. But I must be providing a good game because my player roster stays pretty stable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Doc_Klueless, post: 9290632, member: 261"] I've been the primary GM for my groups since about 1987. I'm tired of it. I burned out. It rapidly became a JOB to put together things for the players. To cater to their wants and wishes over mine. I'm frequently amazed by the number of players who will bitch about their GM and their game but won't have the gumption or drive to take up the reins and run a game. Who will come into my groups and demand that I alter something to fit their needs. But when I say, "No. But I'm willing to play in the game that you run" because I think it'd honestly be fun to play in, I get a lot of guff about how I'm inflexible or gatekeeping or some such nonsense. I usually end the conversation with [paraphrase]: "Stop. You're not paying me and I'm not selling my services. This is free so feel free to stay or go. Either way is fine with me." Because so many players want to play and not GM, my tables (VTT or otherwise) are always full. I don't need them as much as they need a GM. And, really, with the explosion of VTTs, they don't NEED me either. But I must be providing a good game because my player roster stays pretty stable. [/QUOTE]

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