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Why DPR Sucks: Discussing Whiteroom Theorycrafting
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<blockquote data-quote="Todd Roybark" data-source="post: 8052741" data-attributes="member: 6920677"><p>No but DPR is more akin to Points Per Game as a stat then Player Efficiency Rating.</p><p>To use an old reference, even a chucker like Alan Iverson can make a PPG stat line look falsely impressive (when your points equal shots taken, something is awry).</p><p></p><p>Treantmonk, to his disservice, has not embraced a spirit of inquiry, and acknowledged the <em>valid</em> concerns regarding how he has judge the relative weight of what he has taken to be evidence.</p><p>No, rather, TM has done the opposite. Treantmonk stated on The Giant's in the Playground, the video is "just his opinion" and other people can have differing opinions.</p><p></p><p>No one <em>enjoys</em> having flaws in their conceptual paradigms pointed out, but if one is interested in the truth, or as clear a view of something as possible, taking the lumps and <em>leaning into</em> trying to understand the critics is necessary.</p><p></p><p>Retreating into the line of "it is just my opinion", means he has stopped listening to others, and is not interested in "the truth" merely just his view of it.</p><p></p><p>TM said as much on GITP when he stated that his opinion won't sway others, nor will others opinion sway him.</p><p></p><p>We are not talking science here, or even complex mathematical modeling of various decision points.....we are talking about "someone's opinion" that is being conflated with "facts" and is being discussed all across the Internet. Rough DPS is Points Per Game....a crude measurement.</p><p></p><p>The warlock is very much like Alan Iverson, it does DPS, it <em>scores</em>, but it takes <em>a lot</em> of shots, will not pass the ball, and will likely never set up someone else, not this baseline version.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Todd Roybark, post: 8052741, member: 6920677"] No but DPR is more akin to Points Per Game as a stat then Player Efficiency Rating. To use an old reference, even a chucker like Alan Iverson can make a PPG stat line look falsely impressive (when your points equal shots taken, something is awry). Treantmonk, to his disservice, has not embraced a spirit of inquiry, and acknowledged the [I]valid[/I] concerns regarding how he has judge the relative weight of what he has taken to be evidence. No, rather, TM has done the opposite. Treantmonk stated on The Giant's in the Playground, the video is "just his opinion" and other people can have differing opinions. No one [I]enjoys[/I] having flaws in their conceptual paradigms pointed out, but if one is interested in the truth, or as clear a view of something as possible, taking the lumps and [I]leaning into[/I] trying to understand the critics is necessary. Retreating into the line of "it is just my opinion", means he has stopped listening to others, and is not interested in "the truth" merely just his view of it. TM said as much on GITP when he stated that his opinion won't sway others, nor will others opinion sway him. We are not talking science here, or even complex mathematical modeling of various decision points.....we are talking about "someone's opinion" that is being conflated with "facts" and is being discussed all across the Internet. Rough DPS is Points Per Game....a crude measurement. The warlock is very much like Alan Iverson, it does DPS, it [I]scores[/I], but it takes [I]a lot[/I] of shots, will not pass the ball, and will likely never set up someone else, not this baseline version. [/QUOTE]
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