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<blockquote data-quote="LuisCarlos17f" data-source="post: 9784567" data-attributes="member: 6802378"><p>There is a great difference between when an artist or author is using his work to show his point of view and when the entertaiment industry is used like a propaganda weapon.</p><p></p><p>I can tell a story or fabule to explain the difference between authority to give orders and the keys of the true leadership. It is not "ideologically neutral" according your point of view but it is according mine because it is about to teach an universal lesson for all audiences and generations. A different thing would be for example the cartoon "Aztec Batman: Clash of empires". Do you remember the old far-west movies where the Northamerican natives were the antagonists? Generations later this wouldn't be wellcome by the modern audiences.</p><p></p><p>OK, let's try with other example. The "X-Men" cartoon from 90s. It was and wasn't ideologically neutral. It was a title for all the audiences, and it could be watched by children, but it was about versious threat, the fight for the coexistence and against the predujices and intolerance. The cartoon "G.I.Joe: the real American hero" was for children, and it was but it wasn't ideologically neutral. Don't you remember the cultural impact of the movie "V of Vendetta"? The famous sci-fi serie "V" from 80s about those repilitian aliens who ate living mice was a fabule about the rise of nazism. It wasn't "ideologically neutral" because it was about the fall of the democracy and the rise of tiranny but it was "neutral" in the sense the message it was for all audiences. But is you are watching the teleserie "the last of us" and you suspect that character could be the bad guy because he is showed doing certain thing.. and you discover your suspects were right, then the plot is "ideologically tainted" because there is an abuse of certain trope.</p><p></p><p>The cartoon "Captain Planet" was to promote the respect and responsability for the Nature. It was to send a pro-ecological message but they tried to do it in a soft and right way. </p><p></p><p> Today, a large segment of society is fed up with the entertainment industry because it monopolizes a single point of view on reality, and they don't want to spend their money on propaganda that tries to shame them if they don't share the same opinion as the author. </p><p></p><p>I mean you tell your story to explain the reasons of your opinion but if you want to be heard, you must earn their trust. If they feel offended or suspect you're trying to preach propaganda, they'll ignore you.</p><p></p><p>It is OK to tell a story with a message if the plot is good, but you should try to avoid (the abuse of) certain tropes because it could become unconfortable or offensive for too many people.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LuisCarlos17f, post: 9784567, member: 6802378"] There is a great difference between when an artist or author is using his work to show his point of view and when the entertaiment industry is used like a propaganda weapon. I can tell a story or fabule to explain the difference between authority to give orders and the keys of the true leadership. It is not "ideologically neutral" according your point of view but it is according mine because it is about to teach an universal lesson for all audiences and generations. A different thing would be for example the cartoon "Aztec Batman: Clash of empires". Do you remember the old far-west movies where the Northamerican natives were the antagonists? Generations later this wouldn't be wellcome by the modern audiences. OK, let's try with other example. The "X-Men" cartoon from 90s. It was and wasn't ideologically neutral. It was a title for all the audiences, and it could be watched by children, but it was about versious threat, the fight for the coexistence and against the predujices and intolerance. The cartoon "G.I.Joe: the real American hero" was for children, and it was but it wasn't ideologically neutral. Don't you remember the cultural impact of the movie "V of Vendetta"? The famous sci-fi serie "V" from 80s about those repilitian aliens who ate living mice was a fabule about the rise of nazism. It wasn't "ideologically neutral" because it was about the fall of the democracy and the rise of tiranny but it was "neutral" in the sense the message it was for all audiences. But is you are watching the teleserie "the last of us" and you suspect that character could be the bad guy because he is showed doing certain thing.. and you discover your suspects were right, then the plot is "ideologically tainted" because there is an abuse of certain trope. The cartoon "Captain Planet" was to promote the respect and responsability for the Nature. It was to send a pro-ecological message but they tried to do it in a soft and right way. Today, a large segment of society is fed up with the entertainment industry because it monopolizes a single point of view on reality, and they don't want to spend their money on propaganda that tries to shame them if they don't share the same opinion as the author. I mean you tell your story to explain the reasons of your opinion but if you want to be heard, you must earn their trust. If they feel offended or suspect you're trying to preach propaganda, they'll ignore you. It is OK to tell a story with a message if the plot is good, but you should try to avoid (the abuse of) certain tropes because it could become unconfortable or offensive for too many people. [/QUOTE]
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