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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8374485" data-attributes="member: 22779">I'm sorry, but, I do not believe you will discuss this in good faith.&nbsp; I have presented my point of view as well as I could.&nbsp; I have zero interest in white room theory crafting.&nbsp; I showed, using your example, that the group that you chose, could easily have all the elements to completely bypass any challenge in your example with minimal use of resources.&nbsp; The criticism that it was a choice between this or &quot;one less bless&quot; is completely unfounded since, in your example, the cleric has the tools AND bless without any problem.&nbsp; Why would the druid be dealing with writing on a desk or searching a rug?&nbsp; That's not what the druid is there for.&nbsp; If needed, the druid can bypass the stone door.&nbsp; The wizard can read anything written on the desk as well as either Mage Hand or Unseen servant to move stuff around to look under it or whatnot.&nbsp; Why are you insisting that the druid, of all characters, be the one to solo this room without any input from the rest of the group?&nbsp; But, instead you are going down the route of &quot;one person boss them around&quot;.&nbsp; Has nothing to do with that.&nbsp; I play D&amp;D as a team.&nbsp; Which means that everyone brings something to the table that other characters don't.&nbsp; You want a fantastic scout?&nbsp; My Moon Druid is the best that there is.&nbsp; You want something read?&nbsp; Well, that's more the wizard's wheelhouse.&nbsp; So, again.&nbsp; Nope.&nbsp; I'm not interested in this particular rabbit hole.&nbsp; You are proving exactly nothing with this example and have, instead, provided me with a perfect example of how a group, with minimal expenditure of resources, can bypass every single exploration challenge you put before this hypothetical group.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8374485, member: 22779"] I'm sorry, but, I do not believe you will discuss this in good faith. I have presented my point of view as well as I could. I have zero interest in white room theory crafting. I showed, using your example, that the group that you chose, could easily have all the elements to completely bypass any challenge in your example with minimal use of resources. The criticism that it was a choice between this or "one less bless" is completely unfounded since, in your example, the cleric has the tools AND bless without any problem. Why would the druid be dealing with writing on a desk or searching a rug? That's not what the druid is there for. If needed, the druid can bypass the stone door. The wizard can read anything written on the desk as well as either Mage Hand or Unseen servant to move stuff around to look under it or whatnot. Why are you insisting that the druid, of all characters, be the one to solo this room without any input from the rest of the group? But, instead you are going down the route of "one person boss them around". Has nothing to do with that. I play D&D as a team. Which means that everyone brings something to the table that other characters don't. You want a fantastic scout? My Moon Druid is the best that there is. You want something read? Well, that's more the wizard's wheelhouse. So, again. Nope. I'm not interested in this particular rabbit hole. You are proving exactly nothing with this example and have, instead, provided me with a perfect example of how a group, with minimal expenditure of resources, can bypass every single exploration challenge you put before this hypothetical group. [/QUOTE]

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