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<blockquote data-quote="turnip_farmer" data-source="post: 8380186" data-attributes="member: 7029365">Obviously this scenario would also involve a time pressure, otherwise the choice would not be a choice. Possibly where your thinking is going wrong here is in the phrase 'begin the adventure'. I'm not designing wilderness travel to waste time until we get to the adventure. I'm designing an adventure, part (or, perhaps, all) of which is set in the wilderness.My time pressures are never an illusion, they are they to put choices in the game. This whole conversation is very strange. You seem to be imagining ways that someone could design a clock so that it didn't matter. But obviously I wouldn't design my clocks that way. That's the whole point. And of course I could let you arrive early. But the camp where the cultists are is fortified, and you'd have to sneak or fight their way in. And defeating the evil mages would be more difficult without the Magic Item of Plot Device. But if you get the magic item of plot device, you will either arrive just on time (in which case you almost certainly win and feel like heroes) or you will arrive late. Because the detour will be designed to potentially slow you down if you make the wrong choices.But, unless you totally screwed up the detour, you have the Magic Item of Plot Device and so still have a chance to save the day by using it to banish the summoned whatever. Or, if you show up late and failed to get the magic item, then the whatever is rampaging and you're too weak to stop it. So you either get killed or run away in shame having failed miserably. Which is fine.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="turnip_farmer, post: 8380186, member: 7029365"] Obviously this scenario would also involve a time pressure, otherwise the choice would not be a choice. Possibly where your thinking is going wrong here is in the phrase 'begin the adventure'. I'm not designing wilderness travel to waste time until we get to the adventure. I'm designing an adventure, part (or, perhaps, all) of which is set in the wilderness. My time pressures are never an illusion, they are they to put choices in the game. This whole conversation is very strange. You seem to be imagining ways that someone could design a clock so that it didn't matter. But obviously I wouldn't design my clocks that way. That's the whole point. And of course I could let you arrive early. But the camp where the cultists are is fortified, and you'd have to sneak or fight their way in. And defeating the evil mages would be more difficult without the Magic Item of Plot Device. But if you get the magic item of plot device, you will either arrive just on time (in which case you almost certainly win and feel like heroes) or you will arrive late. Because the detour will be designed to potentially slow you down if you make the wrong choices. But, unless you totally screwed up the detour, you have the Magic Item of Plot Device and so still have a chance to save the day by using it to banish the summoned whatever. Or, if you show up late and failed to get the magic item, then the whatever is rampaging and you're too weak to stop it. So you either get killed or run away in shame having failed miserably. Which is fine. [/QUOTE]

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