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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8380193" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Okay, this is some real sketchy grey area stuff. The only reason I'm not saying you are wrong outright is because I know you see Exploration as literally everything that isn't immediately talking to someone or fighting them.But what you are talking about is literally world-building. Like, I don't think many people would say they have engaged in exploration when the DM says "The Kingdom of Cylvania has a long-history of golemcraft". It's just information, which, yes it isn't directly combat or talking to someone, but... if a player chooses to take acolyte as a background and says "My character was an orphan taken in by the convent of the Spear of Light, and raised by Sister Margarite there." have they engaged in exploration? They've established information about the world, but I don't think it is exploration, I think that is something else.Okay... but knowing that a town has about 6,000 people doesn't tell you how to build a town. Or how to build a temple. Or how to cooridinate a government bureaucracyOccupied territory? You mean, you use stealth to maybe avoid combat? that is literally what I'm talking about. You don't use stealth in an empty room to get to the other side, because there is no risk of combat. My point was, "skills" encompass all three pillars, so saying they are exclusively part of exploration is weird. Skills go beyond that.So, only written information. That is a far cry from saying "languages"Because if you want to make a point in a discussion it isn't my job to make it for you. If people ask you for clarification on your points, you shouldn't just say "well, why don't you come up with your own answers about what I mean" because you might not like the answers we come up with.Because I get sick of people dismissing me and expecting me to fill in their points for them. I am open to discussion, but being told, for example When not only am I DM as well as a player, but dismissing me as being ignorant of the process does nothing to indicate you yourself are open to discussion. I'm not "negative" in pointing out that if I'm using the rules as written than any party with 40 gold to buy four sets of winter clothes has nothing to fear from a blizzard or trek across the tundra. If you want to claim a blizzard is a challenge for more than giving cover to monsters about to engage in the combat pillar, then give me something, don't just say "but it is" and hope that I'll homebrew some rules to make you right.</blockquote>

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