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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 8381839" data-attributes="member: 53980">I don't see it that way at all. I see those abilities as opt-out features, that can be enabled and disabled at either a player or DM level (the DM level potentially overriding the player, since if the DM says a certain spell is unavailable, the player can't choose it).If players want to engage with the survival features of having to manage rations and water, they don't take spells like Create Food and Water. If they don't want to engage with it, they take the spell. If the DM wants to run a campaign where management of rations and water is a central conceit, the DM declares such abilities unavailable for that campaign. If they don't want those to be an issue at all, give the party a Decanter of Endless Water and a Murlynd's Spoon, and you're all set.Rules for managing supplies, starvation, dehydration, and the like all exist in 5e. I think it's absurd to suggest that if you're following those rules without Create Food and Water being allowed, that you're not using the 5e rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 8381839, member: 53980"] I don't see it that way at all. I see those abilities as opt-out features, that can be enabled and disabled at either a player or DM level (the DM level potentially overriding the player, since if the DM says a certain spell is unavailable, the player can't choose it). If players want to engage with the survival features of having to manage rations and water, they don't take spells like Create Food and Water. If they don't want to engage with it, they take the spell. If the DM wants to run a campaign where management of rations and water is a central conceit, the DM declares such abilities unavailable for that campaign. If they don't want those to be an issue at all, give the party a Decanter of Endless Water and a Murlynd's Spoon, and you're all set. Rules for managing supplies, starvation, dehydration, and the like all exist in 5e. I think it's absurd to suggest that if you're following those rules without Create Food and Water being allowed, that you're not using the 5e rules. [/QUOTE]

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