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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8383669" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>No, this is a playstyle difference. I interpret actions in the sense of "What would be plausible for an adventurer in that situation?" and always interpret in favor of the player. So, the whole "gotcha" thing just never comes up. </p><p></p><p>Now, the players did have to say that he was watching behind. Fair enough. Or, even just, "I'm watching around" would probably be good enough for me. IOW, he has told me that he is looking for approaching enemies and he is on guard. That's all I need. That's all that's actually needed. The whole "Mother May I" thing of older editions is just not the way I play anymore. </p><p></p><p>"I search the room" will ALWAYS result in the players finding (presuming they are capable of finding, and presuming there is no time pressure) every single hidden thing in that room. No roll necessary. It's the way 3e was intended, and 4e and 5e as well. You "Take 20" to use the 3e term for it, and you succeed. End of story.</p><p></p><p>So, you can call it hand holding all you like. I call it getting the game moving and not bogging down in mindless minutia that 99% of the time doesn't matter. </p><p></p><p>Heck, I treat equipment lists this way too. Is it plausible for your character to be carrying that? Yes? Ok, you have it. I don't care and I'm certainly never, ever going to check what's on your character sheet. I don't play with people that I need to double check their character sheets. If they say they have it, and it's entirely plausible that they do, then, I could not care less if they wrote it down or not.</p><p></p><p>Like I said WAYYYY back before this thread was necro'd. I checked out of the exploration pillar many, many years ago and I haven't really looked back since.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8383669, member: 22779"] No, this is a playstyle difference. I interpret actions in the sense of "What would be plausible for an adventurer in that situation?" and always interpret in favor of the player. So, the whole "gotcha" thing just never comes up. Now, the players did have to say that he was watching behind. Fair enough. Or, even just, "I'm watching around" would probably be good enough for me. IOW, he has told me that he is looking for approaching enemies and he is on guard. That's all I need. That's all that's actually needed. The whole "Mother May I" thing of older editions is just not the way I play anymore. "I search the room" will ALWAYS result in the players finding (presuming they are capable of finding, and presuming there is no time pressure) every single hidden thing in that room. No roll necessary. It's the way 3e was intended, and 4e and 5e as well. You "Take 20" to use the 3e term for it, and you succeed. End of story. So, you can call it hand holding all you like. I call it getting the game moving and not bogging down in mindless minutia that 99% of the time doesn't matter. Heck, I treat equipment lists this way too. Is it plausible for your character to be carrying that? Yes? Ok, you have it. I don't care and I'm certainly never, ever going to check what's on your character sheet. I don't play with people that I need to double check their character sheets. If they say they have it, and it's entirely plausible that they do, then, I could not care less if they wrote it down or not. Like I said WAYYYY back before this thread was necro'd. I checked out of the exploration pillar many, many years ago and I haven't really looked back since. [/QUOTE]
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