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<blockquote data-quote="Mordhau" data-source="post: 8383733" data-attributes="member: 7032137">I think puzzles are intended to be part of exploration probably.&nbsp; As seemed clear in the links I posted earlier, the WotC descriptions of exploration I posted a page or two back things like stealth are part of exploration.Basically the intended pillar seems to work like this.A: Is it a well-known D&amp;D activity?&nbsp; Y go to B/N go to DB: If Yes, is it primarily talking or Fighting Y go to D /N go to CC: It's exploration!D: It not explorationI think that thinking of it in terms of the common English meaning of the word just causes confusion.&nbsp; Solving puzzles is something you do while moving around in a dungeon so it's exploration.&nbsp; Sneaking into someone's house is a sterotypically thiefy thing so it's exploration.It's not that I think that everything that is not talking or fighting is exploration.&nbsp; Certain things are complex enough that they need their own separate subsystems to deal with like domain level play or mass combat so presumably would be new pillars.I think it's called 'exploration' because WotC always goes back to the dungeon as the default activity of the game with every new edition and therefore designs all the rules around that assumption.&nbsp; It would probably have been better named the &quot;dungeoneering&quot; pillar.&nbsp; That helps to explain why certain stuff like wilderness survival which people tend to intuitvely associate with the term 'exploration' is largely treated in the rules as &quot;boring stuff you skip over with class features&quot;.&nbsp; Obviously that's not what they have in mind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mordhau, post: 8383733, member: 7032137"] I think puzzles are intended to be part of exploration probably. As seemed clear in the links I posted earlier, the WotC descriptions of exploration I posted a page or two back things like stealth are part of exploration. Basically the intended pillar seems to work like this. A: Is it a well-known D&D activity? Y go to B/N go to D B: If Yes, is it primarily talking or Fighting Y go to D /N go to C C: It's exploration! D: It not exploration I think that thinking of it in terms of the common English meaning of the word just causes confusion. Solving puzzles is something you do while moving around in a dungeon so it's exploration. Sneaking into someone's house is a sterotypically thiefy thing so it's exploration. It's not that I think that everything that is not talking or fighting is exploration. Certain things are complex enough that they need their own separate subsystems to deal with like domain level play or mass combat so presumably would be new pillars. I think it's called 'exploration' because WotC always goes back to the dungeon as the default activity of the game with every new edition and therefore designs all the rules around that assumption. It would probably have been better named the "dungeoneering" pillar. That helps to explain why certain stuff like wilderness survival which people tend to intuitvely associate with the term 'exploration' is largely treated in the rules as "boring stuff you skip over with class features". Obviously that's not what they have in mind. [/QUOTE]

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