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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8384072" data-attributes="member: 6801845">You seem to have a very odd definition of passive abilities.&nbsp; It's assumed that people get passive values all the time.A passive check is a special kind of ability check that doesn't involve any die rolls. Such a check can represent the average result for a task done repeatedly, such as searching for secret doors over and over again, or can be used when the DM wants to secretly determine whether the characters succeed at something without rolling dice, such as noticing a hidden monster.
This is just a convenience - instead of rolling a dice every 5 foot to find a secret door (or a trap) we use passive values.&nbsp; It saves a lot of time and keeps the game moving along.&nbsp; Unless you think it's for when the PCs state that they state that they sit and actively stare at the same 5 foot section of wall to detect secret doors?I assume that passive values are always in use unless there's some reason not to do so, otherwise the PCs would never see that hidden monster.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8384072, member: 6801845"] You seem to have a very odd definition of passive abilities. It's assumed that people get passive values all the time. [INDENT]A passive check is a special kind of ability check that doesn't involve any die rolls. Such a check can represent the average result for a task done repeatedly, [B]such as searching for secret doors over and over again[/B], or can be used when the DM wants to secretly determine whether the characters succeed at something without rolling dice, such as noticing a hidden monster.[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] This is just a convenience - instead of rolling a dice every 5 foot to find a secret door (or a trap) we use passive values. It saves a lot of time and keeps the game moving along. Unless you think it's for when the PCs state that they state that they sit and actively stare at the same 5 foot section of wall to detect secret doors? I assume that passive values are always in use unless there's some reason not to do so, otherwise the PCs would never see that hidden monster. [/QUOTE]

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