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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8385320" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Create Food and Water conjures 45 lbs of food. You need to eat only a single pound of food per day. The food lasts 24 hours. If you have a 3rd level slot left at the end of the day, you cast it and then eat a pound of food each. You then take a pound with you to eat during the next day. Or you can do Goodberry, which is 10 berries, and enough for a full days meal.If during that day you don't get a chance to eat, you may start starving. First you check if you have eaten at least 1 lbs of food in the last 3+constitution modifier days. If you have? Then no penalty. If during that time period you eat a pound of food? The clock resets.So, needing to go at least three days without having a single leftover spell slot. Yeah, I can see how that is exactly identical to only having one fight then short resting. Now, water is far far less forgiving. A single day without a gallon of water is exhaustion, half a gallon is a DC 15 check (higher than many checks against affects of other planes of existence), but Create Food and water creates 30 gallons, and it doesn't go bad, so as long as you can cast it once every 6 days, you are good. And you also have Create Water, which creates 10 gallons at level 1, which only needs to be cast every two days. Yes, which is part of the problem. Putting more challenges in front of them ends up dragging out play and becomes boring.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8385320, member: 6801228"] Create Food and Water conjures 45 lbs of food. You need to eat only a single pound of food per day. The food lasts 24 hours. If you have a 3rd level slot left at the end of the day, you cast it and then eat a pound of food each. You then take a pound with you to eat during the next day. Or you can do Goodberry, which is 10 berries, and enough for a full days meal. If during that day you don't get a chance to eat, you may start starving. First you check if you have eaten at least 1 lbs of food in the last 3+constitution modifier days. If you have? Then no penalty. If during that time period you eat a pound of food? The clock resets. So, needing to go at least three days without having a single leftover spell slot. Yeah, I can see how that is exactly identical to only having one fight then short resting. Now, water is far far less forgiving. A single day without a gallon of water is exhaustion, half a gallon is a DC 15 check (higher than many checks against affects of other planes of existence), but Create Food and water creates 30 gallons, and it doesn't go bad, so as long as you can cast it once every 6 days, you are good. And you also have Create Water, which creates 10 gallons at level 1, which only needs to be cast every two days. Yes, which is part of the problem. Putting more challenges in front of them ends up dragging out play and becomes boring. [/QUOTE]

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