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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7125723" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>I disagree that the problem is "metaplot". I think the issue is "too much metaplot". </p><p></p><p>When you have adventures <em>and</em> novels <em>and</em> organised play games <em>and</em> comics <em>and</em> video games that are all effectively canon and fighting to define what actually happened to certain people or gods or places then that's an issue. At that point, the problem isn't that events occurred and the world progressed, it's that too much was happening and it was impossible to keep track. </p><p>It's the quantity and quality of the metaplot and the world events.</p><p></p><p>Compare this to Eberron that's effectively static. There's zero reason to update the setting beyond a 16-page rules supplement. Because despite the adventures, comics, novels, and even a MMO and two organised play campaigns, nothing of note has occurred in the world. Nothing that happens in the world really matters. </p><p></p><p></p><p>With two APs a year, they could slowly change and tweak things in the Realms. Especially since if Good wins in half of them, nothing in the world is altered. Just <em>Tyranny of Dragons</em>, <em>Rage of Demons</em>, and <em>Storm King's Thunder</em> have any noticeable impact. And the effects of the last one will likely be "fixed" after a year or two in-world. </p><p>The lore and metaplot is going slow enough that you can keep up. </p><p>The metaplot means it's a living, growing, changing world. Which can make it feel more "real" as history is unfolding.</p><p></p><p>Sadly, WotC isn't even trying anymore. Unlike TSR. There's no attempt at making the APs "canon" or resolving what happened where. So you have the adventurers contradicting the few novels. Because they mandated that Drizzt had to fight Demogorgon and win despite him being big in the adventure. (Couldn't he have lost? Or they could have had Orcus or Baphomet for the climax instead.) And because of the tie-ins, the dates the various events took place doesn't make much sense. </p><p>I'd love for WotC to do a "survey" of the results of the APs and find out what happened in the majority of people's games and use that to establish the canon going forward.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7125723, member: 37579"] I disagree that the problem is "metaplot". I think the issue is "too much metaplot". When you have adventures [I]and[/I] novels [I]and[/I] organised play games [I]and[/I] comics [I]and[/I] video games that are all effectively canon and fighting to define what actually happened to certain people or gods or places then that's an issue. At that point, the problem isn't that events occurred and the world progressed, it's that too much was happening and it was impossible to keep track. It's the quantity and quality of the metaplot and the world events. Compare this to Eberron that's effectively static. There's zero reason to update the setting beyond a 16-page rules supplement. Because despite the adventures, comics, novels, and even a MMO and two organised play campaigns, nothing of note has occurred in the world. Nothing that happens in the world really matters. With two APs a year, they could slowly change and tweak things in the Realms. Especially since if Good wins in half of them, nothing in the world is altered. Just [I]Tyranny of Dragons[/I], [I]Rage of Demons[/I], and [I]Storm King's Thunder[/I] have any noticeable impact. And the effects of the last one will likely be "fixed" after a year or two in-world. The lore and metaplot is going slow enough that you can keep up. The metaplot means it's a living, growing, changing world. Which can make it feel more "real" as history is unfolding. Sadly, WotC isn't even trying anymore. Unlike TSR. There's no attempt at making the APs "canon" or resolving what happened where. So you have the adventurers contradicting the few novels. Because they mandated that Drizzt had to fight Demogorgon and win despite him being big in the adventure. (Couldn't he have lost? Or they could have had Orcus or Baphomet for the climax instead.) And because of the tie-ins, the dates the various events took place doesn't make much sense. I'd love for WotC to do a "survey" of the results of the APs and find out what happened in the majority of people's games and use that to establish the canon going forward. [/QUOTE]
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