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<blockquote data-quote="Shasarak" data-source="post: 7127744" data-attributes="member: 94143">So what is it?&nbsp; Does Divine Power come from your belief or does it come from following the rules of the Church?&nbsp; What if something else appeared and started to give its followers bonus stuff that &quot;normal&quot; Clerics did not get from their church - suddenly this new religion starts to look pretty tempting.&nbsp; And what are the old Gods going to do about it?&nbsp; Nothing because they are too distant.Ok, so what dire consequence would result in taking out fantasy Hitler, I mean King Kaius?&nbsp; I mean other then freeing a population from a terrible undead tyrant?&nbsp; What would the Church of the Silver Flame think about leaving him in charge if they were aware of what he was?&nbsp; And what would it do to their &quot;belief&quot; if the hierarchy ruled that evil had to be suffered to live in the name of peace?House Kundarak still needs high level casters to create its stuff no mater how much handwavium the DM uses.&nbsp; They just conveniently disappear off screen leaving wards and items stamped with &quot;Elmunster&quot;.&nbsp; Personally I just dont buy it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shasarak, post: 7127744, member: 94143"] So what is it? Does Divine Power come from your belief or does it come from following the rules of the Church? What if something else appeared and started to give its followers bonus stuff that "normal" Clerics did not get from their church - suddenly this new religion starts to look pretty tempting. And what are the old Gods going to do about it? Nothing because they are too distant. Ok, so what dire consequence would result in taking out fantasy Hitler, I mean King Kaius? I mean other then freeing a population from a terrible undead tyrant? What would the Church of the Silver Flame think about leaving him in charge if they were aware of what he was? And what would it do to their "belief" if the hierarchy ruled that evil had to be suffered to live in the name of peace? House Kundarak still needs high level casters to create its stuff no mater how much handwavium the DM uses. They just conveniently disappear off screen leaving wards and items stamped with "Elmunster". Personally I just dont buy it. [/QUOTE]

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