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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7130835" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>This touches on something mentioned once and worth talking about more I think.</p><p></p><p>I don't use the Realms or any other setting per se, because I like homebrewing my world. I'm a writer, I enjoy it.</p><p></p><p>However, even as I slowly change things, I still use a lot of Forgotten Realms or Greyhawk inspired material... and honestly at times I don't know which is which. </p><p></p><p>Because I'm a pretty young gamer and I've never seen material published for Greyhawk. I owned the 3.5 books when I was young (never got to play) so I like using dieties like Pelor whom I have learned is Greyhawk. Or Corellon and Moradin who I have no idea where they hail from(though I've also tried to research more dieites for those pantheons and made some changes to the whole thing).</p><p></p><p>And, even the biggest fans of the Realms have to admit, no body else is getting any love these days from official WOTC material.</p><p></p><p>Until this thread, I didn't know Birthright was a DnD setting, I thought it was an old game based on DnD. Al Quadim is a name I've heard on these forums, but other than a single piece of cover art and "fantasy arabia" I know nothing about it. I played a 4e Darksun game, but beyond what the DM had happen, I know next to nothing about that world. </p><p></p><p>This only kind of bothers me, like I said, I homebrew some stuff, but I'm not good at creating entirely new named super-powerful beings, I steal a lot of material from what I can google. But, wouldn't it be nice to have something else?</p><p></p><p>I don't even care if it is another old setting, but I'd really like something new. </p><p></p><p>And what I do know of all these other settings are only because I'm on these forums so much. Go into my local gaming stores and you have Pathfinder and you have Forgotten Realms DnD books, then Warhammer 40k and Star Wars. </p><p></p><p>I get the hate in a defensive way, because at this point it is FR or make it up yourself, maybe convert if you happen to be an old timer who has access to a lot of stuff they bought years before. But, to me and my peers who only really started investing in DnD in the last couple of years, it is a binary choice of setting. And that is frustrating for us and hate-inducing for those people who are invested in other settings and would love a chance to see them made anew like the realms were (mechanically, not story-wise, because no one wants to actually do all of that mechanical conversion themselves)</p><p></p><p>All the lore you guys talk about, all the old modules you recommend. Us new players have no way of knowing about it unless we go looking for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7130835, member: 6801228"] This touches on something mentioned once and worth talking about more I think. I don't use the Realms or any other setting per se, because I like homebrewing my world. I'm a writer, I enjoy it. However, even as I slowly change things, I still use a lot of Forgotten Realms or Greyhawk inspired material... and honestly at times I don't know which is which. Because I'm a pretty young gamer and I've never seen material published for Greyhawk. I owned the 3.5 books when I was young (never got to play) so I like using dieties like Pelor whom I have learned is Greyhawk. Or Corellon and Moradin who I have no idea where they hail from(though I've also tried to research more dieites for those pantheons and made some changes to the whole thing). And, even the biggest fans of the Realms have to admit, no body else is getting any love these days from official WOTC material. Until this thread, I didn't know Birthright was a DnD setting, I thought it was an old game based on DnD. Al Quadim is a name I've heard on these forums, but other than a single piece of cover art and "fantasy arabia" I know nothing about it. I played a 4e Darksun game, but beyond what the DM had happen, I know next to nothing about that world. This only kind of bothers me, like I said, I homebrew some stuff, but I'm not good at creating entirely new named super-powerful beings, I steal a lot of material from what I can google. But, wouldn't it be nice to have something else? I don't even care if it is another old setting, but I'd really like something new. And what I do know of all these other settings are only because I'm on these forums so much. Go into my local gaming stores and you have Pathfinder and you have Forgotten Realms DnD books, then Warhammer 40k and Star Wars. I get the hate in a defensive way, because at this point it is FR or make it up yourself, maybe convert if you happen to be an old timer who has access to a lot of stuff they bought years before. But, to me and my peers who only really started investing in DnD in the last couple of years, it is a binary choice of setting. And that is frustrating for us and hate-inducing for those people who are invested in other settings and would love a chance to see them made anew like the realms were (mechanically, not story-wise, because no one wants to actually do all of that mechanical conversion themselves) All the lore you guys talk about, all the old modules you recommend. Us new players have no way of knowing about it unless we go looking for it. [/QUOTE]
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