Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Why FR Is "Hated"
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 7131586" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>There are reasons I can understand somone not liking a setting. I am not a big fan of Spelljammer. I never really took to Ebberon. I don't hate those settings, and I'm sure there are aspects that I would or could like about them, but they're just not my cup of tea. </p><p></p><p>I just think that many folks who are saying that they don't like the Realms are actually complaining about something else. In the case you cited, as [MENTION=6102]Selvarin[/MENTION] already pointed out, the problem was the player being unwilling to play in the game proposed. Or perhaps we could say that the problem was about mismatched expectations or desires within the gaming group. All players in a game should have expectations that are along the same lines. </p><p></p><p>But certainly the scenario you describe isn't unique to the Forgotten Realms. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. There are degrees to which the material is used. I'd say a map, some locations, world elements or organizations is enough to say you're playing a Realms based game. You consider it something a bit different, and that's fine. Others would have differing definitions, and everyone would be right, as you say. It's a matter of semantics. </p><p></p><p>But this is my point...you or your DM (or both, it sounds like) drew inspiration from the material. And that's really all any setting content is meant to do. To inspire gamers for their home game, whatever it may be. Something about the Kingdom of Many Arrows interested you, so you used it. Parts of Waterdeep interested your DM, so he based things there. Even if all that interested him was the time it saved him having to make a map and some names up himself. </p><p></p><p>So to me, a lot of people who claim to hate the Realms seem to be more upset by some perceived need to remain utterly faithful to the source material instead of simply using it as an inspiration for their game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 7131586, member: 6785785"] There are reasons I can understand somone not liking a setting. I am not a big fan of Spelljammer. I never really took to Ebberon. I don't hate those settings, and I'm sure there are aspects that I would or could like about them, but they're just not my cup of tea. I just think that many folks who are saying that they don't like the Realms are actually complaining about something else. In the case you cited, as [MENTION=6102]Selvarin[/MENTION] already pointed out, the problem was the player being unwilling to play in the game proposed. Or perhaps we could say that the problem was about mismatched expectations or desires within the gaming group. All players in a game should have expectations that are along the same lines. But certainly the scenario you describe isn't unique to the Forgotten Realms. Sure. There are degrees to which the material is used. I'd say a map, some locations, world elements or organizations is enough to say you're playing a Realms based game. You consider it something a bit different, and that's fine. Others would have differing definitions, and everyone would be right, as you say. It's a matter of semantics. But this is my point...you or your DM (or both, it sounds like) drew inspiration from the material. And that's really all any setting content is meant to do. To inspire gamers for their home game, whatever it may be. Something about the Kingdom of Many Arrows interested you, so you used it. Parts of Waterdeep interested your DM, so he based things there. Even if all that interested him was the time it saved him having to make a map and some names up himself. So to me, a lot of people who claim to hate the Realms seem to be more upset by some perceived need to remain utterly faithful to the source material instead of simply using it as an inspiration for their game. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Why FR Is "Hated"
Top