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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 7137720" data-attributes="member: 284"><p>Nope. The novels were tacked on after the setting was created. They are written by novelists, not by the campaign creators. </p><p></p><p>It would be different if the campaign was created based on the novels, but it wasn't. </p><p></p><p>Some of the events in the novels are folded into the campaign timeline when it is advanced, but that's about it. </p><p></p><p>Edit - Or to put it another way - if they are canon, they became canon AFTER I stopped running my own campaigns in the Realms. So they were never part of the canon I was using. But unless it is mentioned in a setting book or supplement, I really don't consider it canon. You may be different, if you have a shelf full of FR novels. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that's just plain nonsense. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So a few years after the campaign I was running, if it was 2002. In either case, I never read either novel. Are you honestly trying to tell me that a novel that I never read, published years after the game I was running, should have been taken into consideration when deciding how to use Realms NPC's in my own game? </p><p></p><p>In any case...this is all really beside the point. The way I chose to use the Realms NPC's in my game was to ...Not have them show up. That's it. </p><p></p><p>Telling me that I was somehow "doing it wrong" because the Realm's NPC's (Elminster in particular) didn't show up and interfere with the PC's is just silly, regardless of what you think the "canon" Elminster would be doing. Even if later novels turned him into a mockery of the original Elminster. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 7137720, member: 284"] Nope. The novels were tacked on after the setting was created. They are written by novelists, not by the campaign creators. It would be different if the campaign was created based on the novels, but it wasn't. Some of the events in the novels are folded into the campaign timeline when it is advanced, but that's about it. Edit - Or to put it another way - if they are canon, they became canon AFTER I stopped running my own campaigns in the Realms. So they were never part of the canon I was using. But unless it is mentioned in a setting book or supplement, I really don't consider it canon. You may be different, if you have a shelf full of FR novels. And that's just plain nonsense. So a few years after the campaign I was running, if it was 2002. In either case, I never read either novel. Are you honestly trying to tell me that a novel that I never read, published years after the game I was running, should have been taken into consideration when deciding how to use Realms NPC's in my own game? In any case...this is all really beside the point. The way I chose to use the Realms NPC's in my game was to ...Not have them show up. That's it. Telling me that I was somehow "doing it wrong" because the Realm's NPC's (Elminster in particular) didn't show up and interfere with the PC's is just silly, regardless of what you think the "canon" Elminster would be doing. Even if later novels turned him into a mockery of the original Elminster. :hmm: [/QUOTE]
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