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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MackMcMacky" data-source="post: 7138243" data-attributes="member: 6876074">Why are you going on about the Castle Greyhawk module. Nobody, including TSR/WOTC/Hasbro, looks at that as anything but a glitch. The difference between Greyhawk's powerful people is that they were intentionally placed in the background whereas in Forgotten Realms they are in the background, always, and in the foreground too often. Vecna wasn't originally in Greyhawk. His impact on Greyhawk depends on two modules. If you don't use those modules, Vecna is either just some lich in your campaign whose hand and eye are floating around causing trouble or Vecna just isn't used. That changed in 3E... or did it? Was Vecna's listing ever used as inspiration for 3E? I don't know. I didn't care for the illusion of options in 3E. I played BECMI, 1E, 2E, 2.5E, and now 5E. I tried 3E and didn't care for it. However, I am a player now in a Pathfinder game - I prefer AD&D and 5E over Pathfinder but that is what the DM is comfortable with.</blockquote>