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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7139509" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>It's a good theory, but it's just not backed up by the rules. The Deck of Many Things and the Librams that give levels for that matter, are written exceptions to the rule. Gods have been written and they have not been given the ability to grant exp. Nor can demon lords. Now, it would certainly make sense for them to be able to do it, but you have to engage a house rule since you are altering the rules involving mechanics.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That isn't necessarily true. People assume a great deal and lose their minds over piddly crap. To think that lots of fans assumed what was cannon, were wrong, and then lost their minds is not a large step to take. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's just not true. You can of course make it hard on yourself as a DM and play it like that, but you have to ignore the options available to you.</p><p></p><p>The bigwigs watch and plot against each other, so they could easily miss a world spanning even, or just plain be unable to leave their own. When you get down to the city level it's even easier. Lady Alustiel is making a state visit to Bruenor. The Lords of Waterdeep are busy working out a trade deal with another major city. The Simbul is planewalking like the lore says she enjoys. High level NPC is assassinated, opening up the ability to rule the city to the PCs.</p><p></p><p>You really are making things about 1000x harder than it needs to be.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If he's using minions until the party is high enough level to handle him, he's not overshadowing now, is he? The same goes for Elminster and the Realms NPCs.</p><p></p><p>Go read the myriad of "A non-caster is just a caddy to the caster" threads and then come back to me. T hey were as common and hotly contested as alignment threads. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The same applies to the PCs and the Realms. The DM is the one who wrecks that or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. It's exactly what I wrote. I'm curious to see it. If I wanted someone to go get it for me, I'd have said so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7139509, member: 23751"] It's a good theory, but it's just not backed up by the rules. The Deck of Many Things and the Librams that give levels for that matter, are written exceptions to the rule. Gods have been written and they have not been given the ability to grant exp. Nor can demon lords. Now, it would certainly make sense for them to be able to do it, but you have to engage a house rule since you are altering the rules involving mechanics. That isn't necessarily true. People assume a great deal and lose their minds over piddly crap. To think that lots of fans assumed what was cannon, were wrong, and then lost their minds is not a large step to take. :) That's just not true. You can of course make it hard on yourself as a DM and play it like that, but you have to ignore the options available to you. The bigwigs watch and plot against each other, so they could easily miss a world spanning even, or just plain be unable to leave their own. When you get down to the city level it's even easier. Lady Alustiel is making a state visit to Bruenor. The Lords of Waterdeep are busy working out a trade deal with another major city. The Simbul is planewalking like the lore says she enjoys. High level NPC is assassinated, opening up the ability to rule the city to the PCs. You really are making things about 1000x harder than it needs to be. If he's using minions until the party is high enough level to handle him, he's not overshadowing now, is he? The same goes for Elminster and the Realms NPCs. Go read the myriad of "A non-caster is just a caddy to the caster" threads and then come back to me. T hey were as common and hotly contested as alignment threads. The same applies to the PCs and the Realms. The DM is the one who wrecks that or not. No. It's exactly what I wrote. I'm curious to see it. If I wanted someone to go get it for me, I'd have said so. [/QUOTE]
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