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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7140556" data-attributes="member: 6801228">As almost an aside to this discussion, how are there tombs left to loot in the Forgotten Realms?I understand things like Undermountain are supposed to be too big to fully explore, but we've got hundreds of years of hundreds of people looting tombs. Yet there are always ruins and tombs nearby the major population centers filled with stuff. And I was talking more about high level clerics and paladins than wizards in my last post. You really believe a high-level paladin got into his power through grave-robbing and isn't going to act as a hero to save the people of his city. Find me a published oath where that makes sense. Same with clerics. &quot;I spent 15 years robbing the dead for gold and glory, now that I am the high priest of Helm I live a cushy life and will not sally forth to protect the town, I'm no hero after all, I'm a grave robber.&quot; That doesn't sound like most fantasy holy men who can channel their deities will. This could simply boil down to my perception of humanity. I'm young and a bit optimistic. I think when taken as a complete whole, people tend to skew good. They are selfish, sure, but in the end more people would choose to do the right thing than the wrong thing. The number of NPCs, the fact that some of those NPCs really should actually be better people than I am, really lends itself within my worldview that a significant number of them would do things to help if it is within their power to help. It simply doesn't add up</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7140556, member: 6801228"] As almost an aside to this discussion, how are there tombs left to loot in the Forgotten Realms? I understand things like Undermountain are supposed to be too big to fully explore, but we've got hundreds of years of hundreds of people looting tombs. Yet there are always ruins and tombs nearby the major population centers filled with stuff. And I was talking more about high level clerics and paladins than wizards in my last post. You really believe a high-level paladin got into his power through grave-robbing and isn't going to act as a hero to save the people of his city. Find me a published oath where that makes sense. Same with clerics. "I spent 15 years robbing the dead for gold and glory, now that I am the high priest of Helm I live a cushy life and will not sally forth to protect the town, I'm no hero after all, I'm a grave robber." That doesn't sound like most fantasy holy men who can channel their deities will. This could simply boil down to my perception of humanity. I'm young and a bit optimistic. I think when taken as a complete whole, people tend to skew good. They are selfish, sure, but in the end more people would choose to do the right thing than the wrong thing. The number of NPCs, the fact that some of those NPCs really should actually be better people than I am, really lends itself within my worldview that a significant number of them would do things to help if it is within their power to help. It simply doesn't add up [/QUOTE]

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